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Old 09-11-2007, 01:55 AM
RemyXO RemyXO is offline
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Default Guess what - AA hand!

I believe this was an interesting one, regardless on the Rockets [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] Just wanna do a line check with overpair - I'm going through a rough patch with them right now.

Read on UTG: His PT stats are decent, but in this session he was playing a lot of trash hands for some reason (tilt?). I also noticed he was playing overaggro - for example, raising a preflop raiser with Q6o on A62 flop.

Read on MP2: LAGtard with 50/25/3.0 stats. He only has $5 left before this hand starts.

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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, <font color="#FF0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#FF0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#FF0000">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#FF0000">MP1 3-bets</font>, <font color="#FF0000">Hero caps!</font>, CO folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls $1 (all in).

Turn: (11.25 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#FF0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (13.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: Guess what - AA hand!

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raising a preflop raiser with Q6o on A62 flop

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that's pretty hot .. nothing wrong with that

on the hand ... it's pretty confusing

maybe this is something like A9 in diamonds (a gs+fd) ... and thinks there is some chance you might fold

I don't think there is much point in betting the river ... it's pretty clear what you have after you call the turn
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:28 AM
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Default Re: Guess what - AA hand!

given the read I have no idea why you call the turn.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:31 AM
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Default Re: Guess what - AA hand!

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given the read I have no idea why you call the turn.

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you want a raise/fold line?

or raise/call-call
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: Guess what - AA hand!

the guy is in donk fest land I would r/c and call river for sure.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:55 AM
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Default Re: Guess what - AA hand!

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the guy is in donk fest land I would r/c and call river for sure.

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personally I think it's a hard spot ... call or raise we pretty much turn our hand up you hand

I think the problem with jacking it up once more is: it lets villain play his hand prefectly. We pretty much have AA, AK, KK, 99 - there are no other hands we could possibly have. He can raise any hand that beats that range.

the flip side is ... by calling we of course only have AA (which also let's villain value bet or check/fold correctly on the river)

actually: i think we might be able to call the turn and fold the river if he bets ... as we only have AA, and looks like we are going to showdown after calling the turn (so, viallin should value bet correctly)

Remy says villain seems OK, but tends to get aggressive (that could really mean a lot)
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:10 AM
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Default Re: Guess what - AA hand!

I'm pretty sure that any line that ends with folding the river is wrong here.

Big pot and a villian who is apparently playing overaggressively.
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Old 09-11-2007, 08:31 AM
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Default Re: Guess what - AA hand!

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Read on MP2: LAGtard with 50/25/3.0 stats. He only has $5 left before this hand starts...Hero is MP2

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Dont play so many hands or understacked, LOL [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

I would have raised the turn and bet the river.

If UTG was playing overaggro and possibly on tilt, I would have expected you to have the best hand most of the time.
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Old 09-11-2007, 10:01 AM
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Default Re: Guess what - AA hand!

There are some guys who I play against who do the exact thing that this guy does with absolutely nothing.

I would be that if you raised the turn he would have called and then donked the river.

The only card that is a bad card for you is what happened on the river. So if he did that I would have to call.

On the flipside that card could have made you a winner as well as monkey boy could be playing two pair.

There is no way I fold this hand ever. Go big or go home. Gut the fish.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:37 PM
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Default Re: Guess what - AA hand!

Grunch.

Looks okay. Considering the read on UTG and MP being ai, the flop cap is fine. I don't think I raise the turn, either. You only get one extra bet when ahead (which I guess is just against KJ/KT, unless he's really gone insane), but lose two when behind.

wtf at utg's river check? I initially just wanted to check behind here, but I really feel like he did go crazy with maybe just a nine, probably Q9/J9. I think I might bet this river, just because I can't imagine anyone trying to c/r here.
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