NL200 - T9s standard?

[SABR42]

No one checks this flop?

I check this flop sometimes. If I bet, I'm usually 3-bet shoving too.

[PleaseSignal]

bleh

[pokerchap]

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No one checks this flop?

I check this flop sometimes. If I bet, I'm usually 3-bet shoving too.

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edit- im a fool.

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i dont mind calling/seeing turn w. position.

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turn is 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and SB leads for 80-100...fold? this question might be too straight forward, I just never just call the flop c/r.

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fold yeah...but i think alot of times villan has us crushed anyway and we are drawing to pure straight outs, some of which may be tainted by a [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] draw or whatever. sure sometimes we'll get bluffed off the best hand, but i think that calling is fine.

that said, i dont really mind shoving. it sortve depends on what you think villan's range is here. if its wide, then shove is fine. but alot of tighter players wont cr here without a set.

[pokerchap]

I think his range is much larger than strictly a set?

[orange]

T8s might be there, 78s might be there, clubs MIGHT be out there, but i think a 22/14's range is a pp alot. sometimes scs and other stuff/suited aces.

[SABR42]

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No one checks this flop?

I check this flop sometimes. If I bet, I'm usually 3-bet shoving too.

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check flop intending to c/r, or just call?

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Hero is in position.

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this is the range i gave him, it might be too loose/tight, let me know what you guys think:

Hand 0: 54.849% 51.57% 03.27% 62701207 3980272.00 { Th9h }
Hand 1: 45.151% 41.88% 03.27% 50911833 3980272.00 { TT, 88-77, Ac4c, J9s+, T8s-T7s, 87s, JTo, T8o-T7o, 87o }

[Fat Nicky]

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this is the range i gave him, it might be too loose/tight, let me know what you guys think:

Hand 0: 54.849% 51.57% 03.27% 62701207 3980272.00 { Th9h }
Hand 1: 45.151% 41.88% 03.27% 50911833 3980272.00 { TT, 88-77, Ac4c, J9s+, T8s-T7s, 87s, JTo, T8o-T7o, 87o }

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i'd say this is as close as you could get.

[wpr101]

I can't believe how many think this is a shove on the flop, I hate that line. SB is not bluffing here very often, when we shove he's going to call and we are either flipping or worse. Unless we have a read that this is how villian plays a fd then it looks like a fold to me on the flop. If it is a rainbow flop, I would be more inclined to call.