NL 200. KK. Preflop openshove.. Instacall? 200 NL 6max

[bpc009]

Ringmaster, I don't believe OPs observations. Not because I don't believe you in particular OP, but because I feel we as human beings don't remember stuff like this as accurately as we think. Rather than him going all in short stacked 5 times and having AA all 5 times, II think it's more likely that villain didn't go AI often, and it seemed like he AA each time. The guys still raises 5% oh his hands as a short stack, so I definitely place him on a larger range here than just AA.



Also, I'm sure OP didn't mean to leave this loophole, but he did write, "if he is short he always showes AA preflop." Well, since he's not short... [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] call.

[Ringmaster]

Fair enough.

If we don't believe OP's read than it's an easy call for sure. But then, there's really no point in discussing things. We pretty much have to accept the info provided as true in order to have a meaningful discussion.

[Roger Mainfield]

Ya, it's BLIND VS BLIND and you have KK. Folding here is ridiculous. I absolutely snap call with fistpump. I can't even imagine folding here.

Edited to add I call with QQ.

[Hince]

Villian open shoves = Villian is bad = A

KK = good hand = B

A + B = C all

[Dan Bitel]

FFS, the "read" is over 300 hands. You only get dealt AA like once over 300 hands..

Obv if we KNOW his preflop shoving range is KK+, then obv calling is stupid, but we have no evidence of teh face it is.

All we know is that he's pushed 5 times, and has had AA all 5 times. This is a redic misread and being misused by any1 who says fold

[Unknown Soldier]

wow, how has this hand genrated so much discussion? This is turning into a Fgators thread

[Ringmaster]

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This is a redic misread and being misused by any1 who says fold

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Obviously I'm not folding this at the tables. I'm arguing from a theoretical perspective, thats all.

[gimmetheloot]

yes, call, yes im happy about it, yes, he will show you aces often, and yes, he played them awfully.

[Fonkey123]

I'd call and make a note he open shoves AA preflop.

[Toni Cogin]

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