QQ on J high flop, reraised pot (200NL)

[Michaelson]

I understand that villain's a nit and everything, but it's button v blind and we've flopped an overpair with a flush draw. Folding at any point seems terrible to me.

[Dan Bitel]

shove for value plz

[Fingerswinger]

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shove for value plz

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what is villains range so that shoving is +ev?

[Michaelson]

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shove for value plz

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what is villains range so that shoving is +ev?

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

39,600 games 0.005 secs 7,920,000 games/sec

Board: Jd 6d 3d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.389% 54.59% 00.80% 21619 315.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 44.611% 43.82% 00.80% 17351 315.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }

[sixhigh]

Yeah, like he calls with AQ/AK no diamond.

[Fingerswinger]

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shove for value plz

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what is villains range so that shoving is +ev?

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

39,600 games 0.005 secs 7,920,000 games/sec

Board: Jd 6d 3d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.389% 54.59% 00.80% 21619 315.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 44.611% 43.82% 00.80% 17351 315.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }

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i'm pretty sure he wouldn't call a shove on the flop (or even c-bet) with AQ without a diamond, the other QQ combo (no diamond), AK with no diamond, and he NEEDS to call with these hands for my equity to be 55.4%, right?


if i'm right it's more like

Board: Jd 3d 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.878% 31.88% 00.00% 6943 0.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 68.122% 68.12% 00.00% 14837 0.00 { KK+, JJ, AdKd, AcKd, AdKc, AdKh, AdKs, AhKd, AsKd }

[Casper05]

shove and its not close

[Michaelson]

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Yeah, like he calls with AQ/AK no diamond.

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Of course he doesn't call, but he could easily c-bet them.

The times we're called we're unlikely to be in great shape, though we'll be ahead our fair share. Point is, at this point in time, facing a c-bet in a re-raised pot, our hand is ahead of villain's range. The board is heavily coordinated and we have one PSB left. The money has to go in.

[Michaelson]

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shove for value plz

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what is villains range so that shoving is +ev?

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

39,600 games 0.005 secs 7,920,000 games/sec

Board: Jd 6d 3d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 55.389% 54.59% 00.80% 21619 315.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 44.611% 43.82% 00.80% 17351 315.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }

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i'm not so sure if he really raises me preflop with AQo.

and i'm pretty sure he wouldn't call a shove on the flop (or even c-bet) with AQ without a diamond, the other QQ combo (no diamond), AK with no diamond, and he NEEDS to call with these hands for my equity to be 55.4%, right?


if i'm right it's more like

Board: Jd 3d 6d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 31.878% 31.88% 00.00% 6943 0.00 { QcQd }
Hand 1: 68.122% 68.12% 00.00% 14837 0.00 { KK+, JJ, AdKd, AcKd, AdKc, AdKh, AdKs, AhKd, AsKd }


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The pot is huge already, you don't need 55% equity against his calling range for a push to be +ev. Shoving and getting a fold from a J, or AK or an Ad or Kd is a good result as well.

[Ringmaster]

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shove for value plz

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what is villains range so that shoving is +ev?

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

38,610 games 0.005 secs 7,722,000 games/sec

Board: Jd 6d 3d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 48.682% 47.87% 00.82% 18481 315.00 { KK+, QhQs, JcJh, JcJs, JhJs, AdKd, AJs, AcKd, AdKc, AdKh, AdKs, AhKd, AsKd, AdQc, AdQh, AdQs, AhQs, AsQh, AJo }
Hand 1: 51.318% 50.50% 00.82% 19499 315.00 { QcQd }

Counting the times he folds to a push, shoving here is hugely +EV.