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Old 08-20-2007, 01:58 AM
shoxbb6 shoxbb6 is offline
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

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yes, all day

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why would you want to set yourself up to play oop like that?

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Because you have the best hand?
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:01 AM
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

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yes, all day

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why would you want to set yourself up to play oop like that?

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Because you have the best hand?

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you don't have the best hand vs 2 opponents
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:27 AM
Kasane Kasane is offline
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

You usually have the best hand against 2 50VPIP guys when they limp -- and the times you don't you'll still get the pot enough on the flop or after if you raise pf and take the initiative. You don't mention what the other player's stats were.

I don't mind checking your option pf either against some opponents, just requires a different post flop plan.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

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raise preflop, bet flop, bet turn

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Pushing would be terrible.

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Old 08-20-2007, 02:45 AM
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

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yes, all day

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why would you want to set yourself up to play oop like that?

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Because you have the best hand?

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you don't have the best hand vs 2 opponents

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Against two bad limpers you do 99% of the time
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:54 AM
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

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yes, all day

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why would you want to set yourself up to play oop like that?

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Because you have the best hand?

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you don't have the best hand vs 2 opponents

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Against two bad limpers you do 99% of the time

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i'm not following you here...my equity is 45% vs 2 random hands
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Old 08-20-2007, 03:49 AM
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

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Against two bad limpers you do 99% of the time

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i'm not following you here...my equity is 45% vs 2 random hands

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So your hand crushes their limping range and you have the best hand here nearly all of the time, why wouldn't you raise?
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:08 AM
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

Will either of them fold preflop to a raise? If the answer is yes then you should be raising. Yes you have 45% equity against 2 randoms but if you can make it heads up with one of their limping ranges then you have +equity. I would raise larger than a standard raise seeing as how you will be playing the pot oop. When you take this line and flop TpSk you must keep the initiative on the flop and turn. Bet the flop and bet the turn. If he is a standard donk, he will call rather than reraise. When you check he is inclined to bet. That is just how people play at that level. Your turn check looks too much like a missed flop C-bet.
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Old 08-20-2007, 04:15 AM
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Default Re: Do you push here with TPSK?

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Will either of them fold preflop to a raise?

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Old 08-20-2007, 09:34 AM
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i'm not following you here...my equity is 45% vs 2 random hands

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but you're only putting in 33% of the cash.....
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