Live QQ hand

Justaguy33 · #1 10-26-2007, 01:21 AM

I have 200 both players cover.

Tagish player raises UTG to 10 four callers to me I raise to 30 with red QQ on button.

UTG calls one other caller. He is loose pf and just called a double all in pf with KQ off.

Flop A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

What do you do here?

thac · #2 10-26-2007, 01:25 AM

Your raise size sucks. UTG raised 10 and got for callers? Raise to like 70-80. As played I'd just c/f, one of them has the ace, no point in betting.

Justaguy33 · #3 10-26-2007, 01:30 AM

TY for reply. Getting four callers for the raise is standard in this game if that changes anything.

thac · #4 10-26-2007, 01:31 AM

Yeah, I realize that, most live games are like that. But raising to only 30 keeps ALL of them in. And your equity drops a lot as each person comes into the pot.

Justaguy33 · #5 10-26-2007, 01:35 AM

i chked
4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Loose player goes allin. ez fold?

thac · #6 10-26-2007, 01:37 AM

He's probably pretty passive postflop (stereotyping), unless you've seen some goofy shoves (not calling a shove, but shoving himself), just fold.

FishSticks · #7 10-26-2007, 01:38 AM

Yah without no reads or whatever it's best to just fold here. So likely someone didn't want to fold Ax preflop.

thac's advice about preflop is good. I know you don't want to risk losing customers since hands come so infrequently in live full ring play, but your raise amount gives hands like As5s the proper odds to call and try to outflop you. Jack it right up and hope someone makes a big mistake.

blah-blah-blah · #8 10-26-2007, 01:43 AM

i make it at least 60 pre flop. i probably make it more like 80 then cry when they all call anyway and the flop comes Axx.

yellowbastard · #9 10-26-2007, 01:47 AM

You misplayed the hand pre-flop. With the pot this big you want to re-raise to at least $100 which would commit 1/2 your stack so it's best just to move in.

On the flop I think I would just push my remaining stack in.

blah-blah-blah · #10 10-26-2007, 01:54 AM

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You misplayed the hand pre-flop. With the pot this big you want to re-raise to at least $100 which would commit 1/2 your stack so it's best just to move in.

On the flop I think I would just push my remaining stack in.

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lol why would u ever shove this flop?