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Old 08-30-2007, 07:35 PM
pacman2k7 pacman2k7 is offline
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Default NL25, LOL @ flop!

no reads on these guys jsut sat down to this table,

Call or raise? I think my Ace is alive and has a nut flush draw so its close..

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $14.93
BB: $18.44
UTG: $74.84
MP: $14.36
CO: $16.42
Hero (BTN): $24.30

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.50</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $0.75</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.50</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.00, MP calls $1.75

Flop: ($7.85) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $4.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises all-in to $11.86</font>, Hero ???
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Old 08-30-2007, 07:41 PM
jmgambler jmgambler is offline
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Default Re: NL25, LOL @ flop!

Oh Man,

I am never 100% here, for me this comes down to "mood" (sad I know) My real problem is UTG? what's he gonna do? and Cold calling PF THEN leads? what QQ? Ugh........... *coin flip*
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:03 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: NL25, LOL @ flop!

It's a fold in my book. If that were it right now you're getting 2 to 1 and it's a call, but UTG's behind you and he came out leading the flop....I'd just throw it away.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:10 PM
shark_fishin shark_fishin is offline
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Default Re: NL25, LOL @ flop!

i think its a fold, youv only comited $2.5 and are getting bad odds to draw to a flush(i dont think your overs are good here)
its really nice that you have possition in this hand [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

btw, i thought you need 3:1 to draw to a flush not 2:1. are you factoring in the times our overcards are good to think 2:1 is a good call lego?
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:12 PM
Lego05 Lego05 is offline
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Default Re: NL25, LOL @ flop!

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btw, i thought you need 3:1 to draw to a flush, we havent commited very much here.

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You need two to 1 if there's two cards coming. 4 to 1 if there's 1 card coming. Neither of those count implied odds or possible redraws for villians.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:26 PM
pacman2k7 pacman2k7 is offline
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Default Re: NL25, LOL @ flop!

but the UTG just cold call pre and then bets weak on flop, I cant put him on a strong hand..
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:39 PM
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Default Re: NL25, LOL @ flop!

hero instacalls.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:50 PM
Kasane Kasane is offline
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Default Re: NL25, LOL @ flop!

Hero pushes -- he's getting 2 to 1 on his call right now, and that's about 0EV for the worst case scenario - a set (okay, maaaaybe not the worst KcJc or ATCcc is mildly possible). I don't think we want UTG in there cheap with anything, getting like 5-1 if we just call. We'd be pot committed to a push anyway.

We may only have like 33-40% equity on average, but that's fine.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: NL25, LOL @ flop!

lol minbettaments.

I second the instacall.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:52 PM
mookboi mookboi is offline
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Default Re: NL25, LOL @ flop!

I disagree with shoving, I want UTG in there.
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