NL25 KK linecheck

[winnnar]

Stars 25bb

No read on villain. 30/14 over a very small sample.

MP1: $24.15
MP2: $21.25
CO: $12.85
BTN: $8.40
SB: $47.75
BB: $9.25
UTG: $24.35
Hero (UTG+1): $27
UTG+2: $24.65

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG+1)
UTG folds, Hero calls $0.25, <font color="red">UTG+2 raises to $1.25</font>, 5 folds, BB calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.25</font>, UTG+2 calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($9.85) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, UTG+2 calls $7

Turn: ($23.85) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15.75 and is All-In</font>, UTG+2 calls $13.40 and is All-In

River: ($50.65) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hows my line here?

[whyherro]

blahhh probably not bad. I frequently don't cbet this flop, I think you get more value out of your hand by checking.

[TJ Eckleburg12]

Fancy Play Syndrome. This is 25NL.

Just raise preflop.

Villain's flop call is the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

The push into the flop call is even worse.

[ghostface]

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Fancy Play Syndrome. This is 25NL.

Just raise preflop.

Villain's flop call is the 800 pound gorilla in the room.

The push into the flop call is even worse.

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what? i raise preflop, but you lost me after that.

[TJ Eckleburg12]

Fancy play syndrome refers to taking weird lines to get "tricky," like limp re-raising with kings in early position. Yeah, it has some deception value, but pretty much anyone knows it probably means "big pair" anyway. You'll gain much more value from your early position kings by raising 4x preflop with KK every time... and raising 4x with all your OTHER raising hands also.

What I meant by the flop call is that screams monstrous strength. It should tip you off that he's almost always got a queen here... and pushing right into it on the next street is probably a bad idea.

[ghostface]

or the fact that its posted suggests that hero loses

[winnnar]

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What I meant by the flop call is that screams monstrous strength. It should tip you off that he's almost always got a queen here... and pushing right into it on the next street is probably a bad idea.

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check/fold turn?

[TJ Eckleburg12]

Unless Villain is a total retard, you're chasing two outs from here, so yeah. You can't call if he bets.

[winnnar]

[i]UTG+2 showed 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Fives full of Queens) and WON $48.20 [i]

You are right about me being way behind here. But I feel many villains at this level are willing to stack off 88-JJ at this spot. Knock on wood.

[Profish2285]

LOL @ c/f turn. Once you get to this point you just push. I dont even understand where you get the idea that the only hand villain has here is a queen, but its a bad notion. Villains will show pocket pairs here quite often. As far as the limp raise, I never do it, but whatever. If youre going to, I like a bigger raise pre flop, especially after one call. I make it like 5.50, but again, I would rather just make a normal opening raise here pre flop.