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Old 10-19-2007, 08:24 PM
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Default $600NL bluffing with a made hand

Party Poker, $3/$6 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 4 Players
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SB: $999
BB: $719.90
UTG: $712.61
Hero (BTN): $630.50

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22</font>, SB calls $19, BB folds

Flop: ($50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $32</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $100</font>, Hero calls $68

Turn: ($250) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $180</font>, Hero calls $180

River: ($610) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $328.50 and is All-In</font>

Villain is a pretty good tag runs at 22/17 we don't have much history and haven't really been tangling much. I think he can def cr this flop with a widish range.

Anyone shove turn?
On the river I expect to be good fairly often but I'm worried about 78 and a occasionally 88 or 9x.
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: $600NL bluffing with a made hand

shove turn &gt; river
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:17 PM
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shove turn &gt; river

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I'm only shoving river as a bluff on a 7 or 8.
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: $600NL bluffing with a made hand

Button vs blinds on a ragged flop like this, I don't give a tonne of credit to a c/r. So, I'd probably shove the turn.
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Old 10-19-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: $600NL bluffing with a made hand

I can't decide if I like this or not, although I originally thought that your chance to rep a hand was on the turn. Rainbow board so you might just call the turn with a fairly strong hand that would have an easy value shove when he checks the river. I think a lot of this would depend on what villain thinks you'd do with such a hand on the turn.
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Old 10-19-2007, 10:49 PM
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Default Re: $600NL bluffing with a made hand

I'd just check. You only really fold out 78, and I think you're good a large majority of the time. Too thin for a valuebet though.
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: $600NL bluffing with a made hand

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Button vs blinds on a ragged flop like this, I don't give a tonne of credit to a c/r. So, I'd probably shove the turn.

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meh i dont think the games play aggro enough for this to be good. and i would definitely check the river... youre good a bunch, 88 isnt folding, and hes calling two pair plus and rarely has a nine. i guess shoving is ok against most 9s and 78, but whatever... risk vs reward isnt good enough. plus your line is kinda [censored]... youd shove turn with a lot of your good hands.
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:23 PM
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Default Re: $600NL bluffing with a made hand

Turn shove looks good, but this isn't bad......I like the river shove as played. I don't think he's c/cing with a 9 since it doesn't really make any sense for you to be bluffing here and you're obviously not value shoving 78. Are you calling a river shove if it bricks?
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:55 PM
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Turn shove looks good, but this isn't bad......I like the river shove as played. I don't think he's c/cing with a 9 since it doesn't really make any sense for you to be bluffing here and you're obviously not value shoving 78. Are you calling a river shove if it bricks?

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Undecided.... depends on specifc card timing etc..
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Old 10-20-2007, 01:57 PM
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Button vs blinds on a ragged flop like this, I don't give a tonne of credit to a c/r. So, I'd probably shove the turn.

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meh i dont think the games play aggro enough for this to be good. and i would definitely check the river... youre good a bunch, 88 isnt folding, and hes calling two pair plus and rarely has a nine. i guess shoving is ok against most 9s and 78, but whatever... risk vs reward isnt good enough. plus your line is kinda [censored]... youd shove turn with a lot of your good hands.

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Agree my line looks sort of FOS but at the same time i like never get to the river with air here so this has to be a vbet a lot more than its air.
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