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Old 01-02-2007, 04:18 AM
Chubbers Chubbers is offline
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Default NL$200 6 max - suited connectors

Villain is 22/19 with a PF AF of 3.6 after 200 hands.

First of all, do you make this call PF? I have seen him numerous times earlier raise like this with things like ATo (one in which he beat my KK). Later he did the same with A7s.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $408.15
Hero: $204.25
Button: $199
SB: $198
BB: $356.25

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to $26</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($55, 2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($55, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $42</font>, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($139, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero is all-in $136.25</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in $131</font>.
Uncalled bets: $5.25 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $401
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:01 AM
Daddy Warbucks Daddy Warbucks is offline
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Default Re: NL$200 6 max - suited connectors

I think pf is the only thing worth discussing here because the rest of the hand kind of plays itself. In short, oop its tricky to play suited connectors in a reraised pot, especially if villain auto c-bets every flop. Here it looks like he genuinely has KK.
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: NL$200 6 max - suited connectors

I'll usually give it up preflop if OOP. Call if he sucks postflop or is agro-donkeytard.
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Old 01-02-2007, 06:13 AM
74o_Clownsuit 74o_Clownsuit is offline
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Default Re: NL$200 6 max - suited connectors

You should still be folding this preflop most of the time.
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:32 AM
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Default Re: NL$200 6 max - suited connectors

What about if he pops it up from the blinds so i still have position, is it a call PF?
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:37 AM
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Default Re: NL$200 6 max - suited connectors

It's 50/50, but if you're not a very good post flop player, i'd generally just let it go.
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: NL$200 6 max - suited connectors

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I'll usually give it up preflop if OOP. Call if he sucks postflop or is agro-donkeytard.

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even if he sucks its still pretty tough to extract, and you are putting in 1/8th of your stack pre

many of the flops you like you are still drawing, where you don't mind putting some money in, but you aren't really making back lost ev from the preflop call

you don't flop 2pr/trips/flushes/straights/combodraws all that often
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Old 01-02-2007, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: NL$200 6 max - suited connectors

Calling the re-raise OOP when you are not deep is a pretty big leak. Pre-flop is an easy fold in position and super easy out of it.
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Old 01-02-2007, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: NL$200 6 max - suited connectors

Cheers bottomset. I don't normally play this at all, but i was planning on playing him more than the cards if i missed. BTW, that gif of yours is freaky.
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