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Old 11-24-2007, 12:38 AM
Fonkey123 Fonkey123 is offline
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Default Battling Flop Miniraises from Regs

Villain is a regular. Long time winner. Somewhat weird preflop, but fairly straight forward postflop with a slight inkling towards calling. Fairly early into the session I got my stack by hitting runner runner flush versus his set :P I bet the flop with the knowledge that I might have to get fancy

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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BB: $200.95
Hero (UTG): $420
CO: $73.45
BTN: $204.65
SB: $174.75

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($19) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $28</font>, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($75) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $48</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $384 and is All-In</font>
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:41 AM
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Default Re: Battling Flop Miniraises from Regs

Who knows. Read-, image-, history-dependent. I don't hate it.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: Battling Flop Miniraises from Regs

Does he minraise with air as well as a piece of the flop sometimes?

This kind of makes me want to start minraising aggresive regulars.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:42 AM
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Default Re: Battling Flop Miniraises from Regs

I'd really need a stronger read (basically, knowledge of what he minraises on the flop with) to be doing anything like this.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: Battling Flop Miniraises from Regs

c/r the flop if you want to get fancy.

I dont hate it...its just so read/image/history dependant that we can't really give advice.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Battling Flop Miniraises from Regs

is this a stars thing? I havent seen much minraising like that from regulars on FTP. Still I would expect it to be a weakish overpair a lot of the time. You would expect he would often check that behind on the turn though so his range is probably quite polarized (omg ssnl buzzword), so it comes down to how often you think he is fos here. Looks spewy to me though.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:45 AM
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Default Re: Battling Flop Miniraises from Regs

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I'd really need a stronger read (basically, knowledge of what he minraises on the flop with) to be doing anything like this.

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I've seen him make smallish raises twice before, but neither went to showdown (prior sessions).

What I'm basically asking is what people do this with? If it's usually a weakish hand or air my line is fine.

I did also have backdoor spades and 2nd strongest unpaired hand, so if he's raising air I have him beat if I get to showdown in a very odd way.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:47 AM
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I would think he could be doing this with weak overpairs, 33/44, or something like A3/A4, or maybe sets...I dunno, I dont see much of this at FTP.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default Re: Battling Flop Miniraises from Regs

I almost never see regs at FTP minraise, so I can't comment too much. Bad TAGs could do it with weak overpairs because many SSNL players aren't comfortable playing those types of hands on 3 streets without a set. If you think he's good, I'd expect him to have the goods here, just trying to bloat the pot enough to make sure he can set up a shove by the river.
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Old 11-24-2007, 12:54 AM
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I would think he could be doing this with weak overpairs, 33/44, or something like A3/A4, or maybe sets...I dunno, I dont see much of this at FTP.

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Okay, that was pretty much my feeling as well. If that's the general consensus I think the hand is okay.

Also, it's a lot more prevelent at pstars than full tilt I've also noticed.
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