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Old 10-22-2007, 07:58 PM
rrrorrim rrrorrim is offline
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

Ha... funny how lots of us focus on the turn but for different reasons...
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Old 10-22-2007, 10:52 PM
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

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Your checked turn gave him the impression that you had a low kicker. So he became more aggressive because (assuming he had Ax) he thought his kicker was better than yours.

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So if he has Ax where and he thinks his ace is good, how would he expect a worse hand to call that overbet?

This is rarely a one pair hand. Nuts or nothing imo.

I fold river.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

With stats like that, we can assume villain knows big bets are for big hands. I agree the only thing we really beat is a bluff.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

What was the result?

I don't think you should have slowed down on the turn. I would lean towards a call on the river because as said you unintentionally gave villian the impression that you were C betting the flop and slowed on the turn. The fact you raised UTG suggests either pair or Ax so if you had a pair you'd C bet flop to rep A. I don't think with stats like his he will just call with 8s or 10s espeically when you raised UTG. i mean he can't just expect to flop a set and hope to stack your Ax can he
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:18 PM
C4LL4W4Y C4LL4W4Y is offline
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

grunch...
i bet like 7 or 8 on the turn. it's just enough so that it gets value out of weaker aces and also looks pretty weak in itself. one problem with the latter reason, though, is that it leaves you open to be raised on the turn, and tptk in that spot vs. a 24/21 is never a fun spot - unless you're both 2p2, you both know it, and he's trying to pull some baluga metagame on you. but that's unlikely.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

OOP I think you need to lead the turn for sure and fold to a raise. If called then b/f river. If he's floaty and attacks weakness then the c/r all in is perfect. As played I would lead the river, but fold to any action.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:23 PM
Woody317 Woody317 is offline
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

I'd fold but it's marginal.

Like everyone's said i can't really see him showing Ax (maybe AQ). Good TAGs love to pounce upon any weakness. By checking 2 streets it just encourags him to fire on the river. I'd prefer to just lead turn and take it down there although this isn't a bad line if you're prepared to call large river bets on safer boards and embrace variance.

I'd call if the river had blanked but a few suited connectors just got there (JQ, T9). I think this is 2pair+ or bluff but the 9 on the river is pretty scary IMO.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:33 PM
wooziephantom wooziephantom is offline
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

If u check that turn it must be to get it in with a c/r.. Lead turn for 9.50.. The turn card is as blank as they come, why slow down if not to get max value with c/r?
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

I think c/c is the worst line to take here.
If the guy has been calling ip, floating you etc then just crai otherwise bet the turn.
As played I fold the river unless I have some amazing read
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Old 10-23-2007, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

way this is played fold, but i would bet the turn about 3/4 pot or c/r all in.
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