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Old 10-22-2007, 05:43 PM
Jay_Whufc Jay_Whufc is offline
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Default AKs TPTK, line check

Villain 24/21/2.4
Hows my line? I was unsure how to play this. C/R turn AI?

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
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CO: $57.95
BTN: $9.95
SB: $160.35
BB: $125.65
Hero (UTG): $49.25

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, CO calls $2, 3 folds

Flop: ($4.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, CO calls $3.50

Turn: ($11.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $10</font>, Hero calls $10

River: ($31.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $42.45 and is All-In</font>, Hero ???
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:59 PM
Colm Colm is offline
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

i would love to know how to play this type of hand as well. my stats are somewhat similar to this guy's and i think you're beat on river way too often to call.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:14 PM
Joefish126 Joefish126 is offline
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

I don't see any reason to slow down on the turn. I would bet about $9. If villain calls the flop and then raises the turn its usually a monster and we can let go. As played I would fold the river. The only hands we are beating are weaker aces and I think a lot of the time villain will have AT, 88, 1010 here.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:16 PM
Jay_Whufc Jay_Whufc is offline
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

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I don't see any reason to slow down on the turn. I would bet about $9. If villain calls the flop and then raises the turn its usually a monster and we can let go. As played I would fold the river. The only hands we are beating are weaker aces and I think a lot of the time villain will have AT, 88, 1010 here.

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this is what i was thinking but look at his stats, he easily 3bets these hands? surely?
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:18 PM
STARSCREAM. STARSCREAM. is offline
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

Bet/fold the turn. As played river is an insta muck.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:24 PM
Joefish126 Joefish126 is offline
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

I don't think villain is 3beting us pf with those hands when we raise utg. If we'd been on the button or cutoff then I would agree with you.
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Old 10-22-2007, 06:22 PM
finalboarder finalboarder is offline
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

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I don't see any reason to slow down on the turn. I would bet about $9. If villain calls the flop and then raises the turn its usually a monster and we can let go. As played I would fold the river. The only hands we are beating are weaker aces and I think a lot of the time villain will have AT, 88, 1010 here.

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this is what i was thinking but look at his stats, he easily 3bets these hands? surely?

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I don't think that he would 3-bet those hands to an UTG raiser.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

With stats like that, we can assume villain knows big bets are for big hands. I agree the only thing we really beat is a bluff.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

What was the result?

I don't think you should have slowed down on the turn. I would lean towards a call on the river because as said you unintentionally gave villian the impression that you were C betting the flop and slowed on the turn. The fact you raised UTG suggests either pair or Ax so if you had a pair you'd C bet flop to rep A. I don't think with stats like his he will just call with 8s or 10s espeically when you raised UTG. i mean he can't just expect to flop a set and hope to stack your Ax can he
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:22 PM
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Default Re: AKs TPTK, line check

OOP I think you need to lead the turn for sure and fold to a raise. If called then b/f river. If he's floaty and attacks weakness then the c/r all in is perfect. As played I would lead the river, but fold to any action.
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