Bodog down?

[brendanb438]

Um Ragz no. Bodog has made it quite clear that they don't give a shiat about that lawsuit. They were dumb to have used the Enom Inc. in Canada for web hosting because they will listen to U.S. court orders because of U.S. / Canadian relations. They had up until this point completely ignored the lawsuit from 1st Technologies.

All Bodog needed to have done was used a host that wasn't within US jurisdiction and this wouldn't have happened.

Do you really think Ayres cares about this companies lawsuit within the U.S.? How much you wanna bet 1st Tech. will settle for a couple Mill and Bodog will have it's domains back in order?

Ragz don't you think newbodog.com would already be shut down if the U.S. courts had the power to? Nope different host outside of U.S. jurisdiction. Also they aren't gonna change their name. Do you understand how the legal system works ragz? If Bodog operates outside of U.S. jurisdiction then 1st Tech. can waste all the money they have going after Bodog, nothing will come of it. This is how Calvin Ayres has operated his business for quite some time now.

-Brendan

[brendanb438]

If anyone wishes to contact their Customer Service department for verification of the new domain, please call them at 888-263-0000.

More Details as to what actualy happened to date:

Surprise litigation shuts down traditional Bodog brands....but New Bodog.com now in action

The past 24 hours have been a torrid time for the webbies and owner of the Bodog.com brand. The online gambling and entertainment group, which trademarked its brands some time ago, has been under siege following a Seattle court order that has hamstrung its brands....at least for now.

Bodog staff put in plenty of overnight overtime to set up New Bodog.com as a temporary solution for an issue that has serious implications for the company and its business.

The first intimation that something was wrong was when players around the planet found they could not access the usual Bodog links on Tuesday. Amid confusion and concern, the gambling group stepped up to explain that the problems were the result of a dispute over the ownership of the Bodog.com domain name, which the group was fighting. In the meantime, an alternative site had been set up for the use of customers.

As Online-Casinos.com/InfoPowa went to press it appeared that the US legal situation and Bodog's possible vulnerability in regard to appearing in the USA may have played a hand to the company's disadvantage.

On August 1st a Washington State judge in Kings County, Seattle issued a court order on the registrar for Bodog.com to have the domains taken down due to an unanticipated "patent infringement" claim.

It was part of an uncontested judgement in favour of a company called 1st Technology LLC against Bodog Entertainment Group, with the former apparently winning an award of $48 937 456.

It is not yet clear whether Bodog was aware of the action, or decided that it was too risky to enter the States or be represented in defending it. The group may not have wanted to give the USA the power of jurisdiction over it. In any event, Bodog did not appear and suffered for it.

Known Bodog registered domains have been suspended, and as an immediate 'bandaid' solution the company registered New Bodog.com - the company has trademarked the Bodog brand and founder and CEO Calvin Ayre has said it is going to fight the action with determination.

The implications for brand, business, search engine positioning and other elements are clearly significant.

According to Internet searches, 1st Technology LLC is "....a leading technology licensing company with a patent portfolio of advanced Internet and multimedia innovations.

"1st Technology is headed by Internet pioneer Dr. Scott Lewis who led the development of the world's first single integrated circuit chip with on-board video and audio compression, advanced adaptive digital signal processing technology at Oxford University, and introduced multiple broadband Internet and multimedia technologies. 1st Technology has a long list of industry leaders as licensees.

"The [alleged Bodog] violation relates to the method for the production and transmission of enhanced multimedia information.

"An optimization method is disclosed that enhances the interactivity of multimedia information. The optimization method includes separating a multimedia information into primary and secondary layers and enhancing that information in the primary layers such that the perceived psychographic information quality is improved. This method has the advantage of providing compression and/or transmission algorithms to maximize enhancement of the multimedia information."

"Nearly all aspects of the [Bodog] website have been updated to reflect the environment our clients are accustomed to," says Ayre. "We are working to resolve any of the minor remaining glitches on the alternate site, but other than that it is business as usual."

The timing of the litigation is significant and presumably intended - the first two to three weeks of North American football are the busiest of the year for online sportsbetting in that market sector.

Legal detail can be found at: http://www.metrokc.gov/kcscc/daily%2...7judgments.txt in case number 07-9-21969-8 dated 8/1/2007, and at http://dw.courts.wa.gov/index.cfm?fa...asesearchTerms

[RagzMaster]

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Um Ragz no. Bodog has made it quite clear that they don't give a shiat about that lawsuit.

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BoDog Exec: OMG! OMG! Calvin, You know those lawsuits you've been ignoring, well I hate to tell you this but you no longer own bodog.com
Calvin: I don't give a shiat
BoDog Exec: Calvin, did you hear what I said? Bodog.com is gone, it has been seized in a lawsuit. All of our customers are going crazy wondering what's going on because no one can access their accounts. Everyone wants their money withdrawn because the SKY IS FALLING! What do we tell them?
Calvin: Tell them we dont give a shiat
BoDog Exec: Sure thing Calvin. I'm putting together the press release together now that our stance is "we don't give a shiat"
Calvin : Well Done

[H5N1]

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did you still have your notes?

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Downloading the application from NewBodog.com does preserve notes. I don't think they were stored locally in the first place. I definitely still have them either way. So I wouldn't bother with regedit.

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I guess this is a moot point since the new client apparently preserves the notes...but FWIW they are definitely saved locally...in this registry folder...

[RagzMaster]

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Do you really think Ayres cares about this companies lawsuit within the U.S.? How much you wanna bet 1st Tech. will settle for a couple Mill and Bodog will have it's domains back in order?

-Brendan

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Of course he cares DUCY?? And if by a couple million you mean 2 million or less, I'll take that bet in a second. I'm sure it will get resolved soon bet not for less then 10 million. 1st Tech really has him by the short hairs here. Calvin doesnt really have much of a choice here, I'm sure they have more then $10 Mil out there in advertising for BoDog, and losing this name would be devastating.

[brendanb438]

Ragz I know you are trying to be cute with that response, but that probably is damn near what Calvin would say to his reps.
I am confused by who would be this Bodog Exec, is Bodog no longer owned solely by Calvin Ayre and he is the CEO of his company?

I am not sure how familiar you are with his company which is ran out of Costa Rica but again the U.S. has no jurisdiction over Ayre. Do you know of his past issues with U.S. DOJ? Or with his stance on U.S. anti-gambling laws? Do you remember what he did with sites who quit hosting U.S. players? Oh yeah, he bought them and their U.S. players and brought them over to Bodog. Why is that? Because he doesn't care about the U.S. government. He flaunts this in their faces.

Also have you read what Bodog reps have been saying on sites like Gambling911 or TheRX? Sites with very close ties to Ayres? Bodog reps have already said the person behind the suit can HAVE THE DOMAINS, we don't intend to negotiate with these people. I know they will pay a reasonable amount to get the domains back, $10 Mill might end up happening I will give you that.

I only disagreed with your first statement that this isn't about the domain names, do you agree now that this IS WHAT this is about? That idiot who thinks he owns a patent over paying out bets is gonna get shutdown the first time a major player actually goes at it with him in court. These types of patents are a joke, this is similar to what Microsoft is trying to do to stop software like Linux.

-Brendan

[O Twist]

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downloaded from the newbodog site and is working fine, account info. and balances all ok and still showed me registerd for some upcoming tournys that i had registered for before all the troubles

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Moreso, this is the first time as a Canadian that I can download and check out Bodog. Cool. But I don't think I will make a deposit just yet. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[RagzMaster]

What I don't understand now is who has the rights to the url bodog.com, the govenment or 1st Technologies? If it's the govt, why did it take this silly lawsuit to shut down the site when they could have done it at any time, and if Calvin is so arrogent to the US Laws, why would they ever let them reopen under the same name?
And if it's 1st Tech, why hasn't anyone else sued bodog before this, knowing they can't represent themselves in court and would lose their site to the first Joe Shmoe taking them to court?

[brendanb438]

Ragz yeah it makes no damn sense. Any gambling related site that is currently located on servers ran by companies who will work with the U.S. Government, Canada for example, had better get relocated ASAP. This is only the first site to be attacked like this. From what I have read this company is gonna go after some other major players. I hope they are on foreign servers.

[BarefootBill]

I wonder why bodog doesn't send out an e-mail to their customer base? That would make sense to me. I'm willing to bet that their are a lot of folks that don't even know about two+two or other online poker chat sites.

I was thinking about making a deposit there for some low limit play but I'm not going to do it until this all gets sorted out.