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Re: If this wasn\'t in the blinds, I would have folded...should I anywa
b/f the turn all day long
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Re: If this wasn\'t in the blinds, I would have folded...should I anywa
what do you do if you're minraised again on the turn?
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Re: If this wasn\'t in the blinds, I would have folded...should I anywa
You're right that you're charging flush draws more with this play, which is indeed more +EV than just calling if you view it as its own discrete event (for simplicity I'll just assume the villain won't ever bluff shove the river when he misses the flush). But the flush draw makes up only a portion of the opponent's range. When he calls, his range is squarely ahead of yours, and I expect you to be ahead infrequently. So I think that the fact that you're extracting more from flush draws isn't as important as it might seem, since more often you'll find yourself far behind. I think the important thing is to maximize your expectation over the opponent's entire range, not just maximize it over one of his possible holdings.
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Re: If this wasn\'t in the blinds, I would have folded...should I anywa
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what do you do if you're minraised again on the turn? [/ QUOTE ] the real question is what do you do when he calls |
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Re: If this wasn\'t in the blinds, I would have folded...should I anywa
good point, I don't see bet/folding being any good here. check/fold ftw.
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Re: If this wasn\'t in the blinds, I would have folded...should I anywa
That's very results oriented. It's weak tight to c/f the turn because you're basically folding to the minraise. You very well can't check raise, though, because you're trapping yourself. b/f is the only option and it loses you the least amount of money when you're behind while maximizing the most value from lesser hands.
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Re: If this wasn\'t in the blinds, I would have folded...should I anywa
b/f turn is good, as many donks will raise flop w any ace to 'see where they are at' and call down w weaker aces after that.
BUT river can be tricky if he just calls. do we just shove river then? check call a shove? an argument can be made for c/c turn, c/f river. if turn is checked through we can bet and make up for lost value on the river. and worse hands wont try to bluff us off our hand on the river very often. |
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Re: If this wasn\'t in the blinds, I would have folded...should I anywa
Re-eval on river. If he just flat calls my turn blocking bet, a bet when I check is more likely to be a busted flush draw / weaker ace. But the 8 coming is pretty bad card, just giving another Ax 2p.
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Re: If this wasn\'t in the blinds, I would have folded...should I anywa
If you think you are ahead on the turn but also think he'll bet big if you check, you might want to put a small block bet in. As played I fold to the flop turn raise. I like to avoid AJ pf in the BB in a raised pot, but if villian raises alot or is fairly passive post flop, a call is fine.
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Re: If this wasn\'t in the blinds, I would have folded...should I anywa
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I like to avoid AJ pf in the BB in a raised pot, but if villian raises alot or is fairly passive post flop, a call is fine. [/ QUOTE ] Hero has to raise this all day PF |
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