16s: Murphy is the best coach ever!

loxxii · #1 11-26-2007, 10:38 PM

Have to go broke on these right?

Murphy has taught me a great lesson about not betting good hands tonight.

1. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (4 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG (t3285)
Button (t2175)
SB (t5435)
Hero (t2605)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t200) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t200) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t100, SB calls t100.

River: (t400) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB bets t4200, Hero calls t2405 (All-In).

Final Pot: t5210

2. PokerStars Game #13490763989: Tournament #68433345, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/11/26 - 20:59:01 (ET)
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t1480)
Button (t1480)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
Hero (t1500)
MP3 (t1560)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to t60, 1 fold, CO calls t60, 2 folds, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t190) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets t60, Hero calls t60, CO calls t60.

Turn: (t370) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets t80, Hero raises to t280, CO calls t280, BB folds.

River: (t1010) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets t1100 (All-In), CO calls t1080 (All-In).

Final Pot: t3170

3. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1500)
MP2 (t1490)
MP3 (t1470)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1710)
SB (t1460)
BB (t1420)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, 1 fold, Hero calls t20, 3 folds, Button calls t20, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t100) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets t60, BB folds, UTG calls t60, Hero raises to t260, Button folds, SB calls t200, UTG calls t200.

Turn: (t880) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets t600, SB calls t600, UTG raises to t1200, Hero raises to t1220, SB calls t580 (All-In), UTG calls t20 (All-In).

River: (t4500) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t4500

Kevin8423 · #2 11-26-2007, 10:40 PM

I'm folding, that river is horrible and its not worth bubbling when you only put 100 into the pot so far. I'm thinking this is a J or better fairly often.

Pudge714 · #3 11-26-2007, 10:44 PM

Who is Murphy? I might bet the flop, I would bet like 125/150 on the turn river is a really easy fold.

CheeseMoney · #4 11-26-2007, 10:45 PM

Are you talking about that lawyer guy?

loxxii · #5 11-26-2007, 10:49 PM

I dont know if you guys are being serious, so let me say I meant Murphy's Law.

vers · #6 11-26-2007, 10:51 PM

Hand 2 I would be raising the flop and folding to shoves or re-raises. On the turn, I guess raising is ok, villain might somehow have a K here, but when CO flat calls for the 2nd time, I definitely put him on a Q and c/f the riv, maybe c/c very small bets, but I think we're behind.

Hand 3 I would have a hard time folding too, especially getting laid a good price on the call, even if we're behind.

*I should have said it, but yeah for hand 2, the hero's flop/turn line is odd and doesn't serve a purpose. A raise just defines the other opponent's hand, but should be done on the flop b/c it's cheaper than flatting the flop and raising the turn.

sippin_criss · #7 11-26-2007, 10:57 PM

Hand 1 you're chopping at best. Hand 2 river shove is pretty much atrocious, I feel like just c/f'ing that river and I can't really comprehend flatting flop and raising the turn. Hand 3 is the only one of these where you don't have much of a choice.

TruFloridaGator · #8 11-26-2007, 11:04 PM

1)Bet Flop, Bet more on turn, Fold river as played
2)80 or 100 pf should be standard, 60 is horrible. Raising the turn after flatting the flop is kind of silly. WA/WB, just keep calling and keep the pot small.
3)Can't fold

blackize · #9 11-26-2007, 11:11 PM

I'm surprised everyone is saying that 3 is just a cooler. I'm checking behind that turn because I think one of them shows up with a flush a ton there. Once he bets he can't fold because he's getting odds on his redraw, but I think betting there 3way is a mistake.

eurythmech · #10 11-26-2007, 11:13 PM

1) I sometimes bet, sometimes check flop. Checking is def. fine. 200 on turn. Fold river. Actually, you might want to request time before folding, might make villain show you his hand. Kind of pointless, I know. But I'd be curious even though fold is standard and easy.

2) I agree with people who said that raise/fold is a good flop line. Hate the turn raise. River push is good against a king only, and why would he have a king?

3) WP