12/180 turbo - top two on awkward board

[MNoller]

In steps:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t150 (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t3495)
Button (t1640)
SB (t1330)
Hero (t3160)
UTG (t7945)
UTG+1 (t1080)
MP1 (t4800)
MP2 (t2865)
MP3 (t2695)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls t150, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP3 calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t600) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>

Final Pot: t600
SB checks
Hero: ?

[ssnyc]

hero pots...calls push

[jchauvin]

with stack size a c/r would be ideal but it checking around is disaster, have to lead. 500 sounds good.

[MNoller]

Okay, so flop wasn't that tough.

CO (t3495)
Button (t1640)
SB (t1330)
Hero (t3160)
UTG (t7945)
UTG+1 (t1080)
MP1 (t4800)
MP2 (t2865)
MP3 (t2695)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 8.
UTG calls t150, 3 folds, MP3 calls t150, 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t600) 8, 9, 7 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t500, UTG folds, MP3 raises to t1000, SB folds, Hero...

[JSmith2007]

Shove and hope for the 4 outer if he has 10J or just have your two pair hold up against an OESD / TPTK.

[ssnyc]

shove and sign up for the next one..check back in a few seconds to see how it turned out...these turbos do not give you the luxury of folding top two like a normal tourney

[helgefyll]

ssnyc, are you saying you would fold this in another tourney? if so eloborate please?

[JSmith2007]

I think what ssnyc is saying (feel free to correct me if it is not) is that it's possible to put a player on a set or something that has you beat in a regular tourney. In these 12/180s (especially IMO) players seem to take TPTK as the nuts and thank the lord if they have JJ-AA, screw the flop, they're all in if they get action on it. So with that reasoning, the shove after the minraise is easy IMO.

[ChipSpeak]

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shove and sign up for the next one..check back in a few seconds to see how it turned out...these turbos do not give you the luxury of folding top two like a normal tourney

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Yup..

[ssnyc]

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ssnyc, are you saying you would fold this in another tourney? if so eloborate please?

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In a deeper and higher buy in tourney you could bet fold here...you will see J 10 a lot and also a combo draw where you may not be ahead...in a turbo you have to lower your expectations of what your opponnents will consider a good hand...in a bigger tourney I could find (though painful) a fold