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Old 08-10-2007, 01:24 PM
luegofuego luegofuego is offline
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Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,796.75
Hero (BB): $2,643.00
UTG: $906.50
BTN: $1,454.75

UTG posts $15.00
Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG checks, BTN folds, SB calls $5.00, Hero checks

Flop: ($30) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30.00</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $70.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $240.00</font>, SB calls $170.00

Turn: ($510) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($510) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $510.00</font>, Hero folds

Pot Size: $1,020.00
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:25 PM
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Default Re: another laydown, way more annoying

looks fine
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:30 PM
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Default Re: another laydown, way more annoying

i wouldn't fold here
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: another laydown, way more annoying

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i wouldn't fold here

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Old 08-10-2007, 01:42 PM
luegofuego luegofuego is offline
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Default Re: another laydown, way more annoying

yeah if i cared about what u would have done i would have included a poll in the OP. i want reasoning and hand reading
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: another laydown, way more annoying

J10, Q9, Q8, 76, 89,97, 87, Jxdd that he felt like completing with just cuz. all in his completing range that we beat no?
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: another laydown, way more annoying

how about this, potentially more than one draw missed and he might think that three of a kind is the nuts, so call
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:17 PM
Benzooor Benzooor is offline
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Default Re: another laydown, way more annoying

Reasoning is that he's making this bet with a much wider ranger than a full house, he easily takes this line with KJ/QJ/JT, any Jack period and possibly diamonds or a ten as well, all of which you beat.

Plus, metagame man.
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: another laydown, way more annoying

u cant give KJ an equal probability as 88, J8 etc, ducy

same goes for flush draws
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:25 PM
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Default Re: another laydown, way more annoying

I like a fold here, it's close, but his line looks like he's full to me. The range mentioned above for completing hands is accurate, but few of them are consistent with full potting the river (87? Q9? are you serious?). Looks like a J8 type of hand to me. There aren't many dry Jacks other than QJ, maybe KJ, he would limp the SB and then have the balls to hammer the river like this.
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