Da river check-raise bluff

bmxreed36 · #1 11-03-2006, 10:00 PM

Stars $30+3, villian hasn't done anything worth catching my attention so far, just a little loose preflop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t3125)
MP3 (t1595)
CO (t5595)
Button (t5015)
SB (t11390)
BB (t1855)
UTG (t4215)
UTG+1 (t2335)
Hero (t4195)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, Hero raises to t600, 2 folds, CO calls t600, 2 folds, BB calls t400.

Flop: (t1900) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Turn: (t1900) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

River: (t1900) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets t1200, BB folds, Hero raises to t3595

Howboutit?

mattmcegg · #2 11-03-2006, 10:05 PM

Why do this? I think its pretty bad and hes going to call you with his pair. The way you played it doesnt put you on a set of Jacks, or even a pair of Kings.

Cornell Fiji · #3 11-03-2006, 10:08 PM

I hate it

Bakes · #4 11-03-2006, 10:10 PM

However, I think a lot of Villains won't show up with either a K or a J here and are on a pure steal, and won't make big calls with an underpair or A9 or something, I don't really mind it so much against someone who you can count to be firing the river with a weak hand a lot of the time.

All you who hate the play would never call him with TT or A9, thats for sure.

Superfluous Man · #5 11-03-2006, 10:12 PM

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All you who hate the play would never call him with TT or A9, thats for sure.

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Getting almost 3:1 on the river? Really?

Anyway, why not just like, c-bet the flop? Or bet the turn and rep AK?

mlagoo · #6 11-03-2006, 10:15 PM

this looks like the old "i'm tired of playing in this particular tournament" play

bmxreed36 · #7 11-03-2006, 10:22 PM

I'd C-bet every raise of mine so far and figured with this flop against two opponents, slowing down was a good idea.

FWIW, I realize (and did at the time) that I'm pretty much representing nothing, but I still think it's a good play.

Colombo · #8 11-03-2006, 10:23 PM

When bluffing, you should ask yourself what you are trying to represent.

Would you play like this with any logical holding?

mattmcegg · #9 11-03-2006, 10:29 PM

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I'd C-bet every raise of mine so far and figured with this flop against two opponents, slowing down was a good idea.

FWIW, I realize (and did at the time) that I'm pretty much representing nothing, but I still think it's a good play.

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Honestly, just looking at pot equity and what hes NOT folding given his pot odds, it just isnt a EV move.

Bakes · #10 11-03-2006, 10:37 PM

Reasonable range for villain? There's all this talk about what he's not folding but what does he have? I'd say all J's and K's are out.