DonkSquared

[The DaveR]

Live game. 3 limpers and I complete A5o in the SB, BB checks.

Flop is AJ8r. I bet, BB raises in tempo, folds to the button who coldcalls, I call. I'm friendly with the BB, he beats the game easily, is probably very slightly too passive for this game, and he has a pretty good sense of my range to bet the flop into 4 people. He would raise AJ/JJ preflop but I doubt 88. Button could have any part of the board down to backdoor suited cards but a gutshot of some sort seems likely.

Turn is a 6 which puts 2 hearts on the board. I bet, he raises again in tempo, button folds and I release.

[MitchL]

I think you can probably check/fold the turn, but this is fine too.

[Joe Tall]

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button folds and I release.

[/ QUOTE ] two streets too late.

[JoEyPeNeLoPe]

meh

[blindside]

i like checking the flop here and seeing what develops... given your description of your opp i don't see how you can call the flop raise...

[The DaveR]

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...given your description of your opp i don't see how you can call the flop raise...

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Board: As Jc 8d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.934% 22.68% 15.25% 15718 10570.00 { Ac5s }
Hand 1: 62.066% 46.81% 15.25% 32442 10570.00 { 88, A9s-A5s, QTs, J8s, ATo-A5o, QTo, J8o }

I think there should be less weigh on the QT hands but at the same time he might raise A2-A4 on the flop so I would guess this is about right.

[UtzChips]

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button folds and I release.

[/ QUOTE ] two streets too late.

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Agreed. Too many Ax's that are beating you out of the gate.
I'd rather complete with 76o in the SB.

[blindside]

i honestly didn't think of QT in his range.. if it is you could probably put T9 in there also... which i don't mind calling and donk/folding the turn... i thought you meant you could rule out him raising a draw here as it would be pretty strange, seeing as how he's on the passive side and he could let a lot of others come in behind him... i suppose you can't totally rule it out though..

even without that you are getting 9-1 so i guess you can call the flop..

[PokerBob]

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I'd rather complete with 76o in the SB.

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i sure hope you are not suggesting folding preflop.

[drbk2]

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...given your description of your opp i don't see how you can call the flop raise...

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Board: As Jc 8d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 37.934% 22.68% 15.25% 15718 10570.00 { Ac5s }
Hand 1: 62.066% 46.81% 15.25% 32442 10570.00 { 88, A9s-A5s, QTs, J8s, ATo-A5o, QTo, J8o }

I think there should be less weigh on the QT hands but at the same time he might raise A2-A4 on the flop so I would guess this is about right.

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Ok if you include QT in his range why wouldn't you include T9 in his range also?

I would just check fold the turn, I don't really see how the big blind would have anything you beat. Usually leading out from the small blind into a big field in an unraised pot is a sign of a huge hand and he was still raising you. This looks like any two pair hand at least and you are drawing dead to all of them except for one.