turn shove with 2nd pair

[tmcdmck]

villain is fairly straightforward, but he has been doing flop raises just like this quite a bit. certainly enough for his range to be wider than top pair+

PokerStars Game #13246636138: Tournament #67216364, $22.00+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level II (15/30) - 2007/11/14 - 21:54:36 (ET)
Table '67216364 1' 2-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: tmcdmck (1245 in chips)
Seat 2: Khavotar (1755 in chips)
tmcdmck: posts small blind 15
Khavotar: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tmcdmck [9d Qd]
tmcdmck: raises 60 to 90
Khavotar: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [9s 7c Th]
Khavotar: checks
tmcdmck: bets 120
Khavotar: raises 280 to 400
tmcdmck: calls 280
*** TURN *** [9s 7c Th] [3s]
Khavotar: checks
tmcdmck: bets 755 and is all-in

thoughts on all streets?

[jay_shark]

I probably put in another raise otf against a loose flop raiser . Middle pair is fairly strong and against two live cards , your opponent will hit top pair ~ 11% of the time .

If you're willing to get it all in ott , then you might as well do it otf .

[tmcdmck]

i suppose i should explain my thought process, and clarify my read:

my range for his flop raise was any pair+, strong draws. i did not think he would do it with air.

therefore with this in mind, i called the flop rather than reraised, as i was not really ahead of his range, but definitely had odds to call against it. i shoved the turn because i thought the check was either the nuts or a draw (and obviously there are way more combos of draw out there). i suspect i maybe should have folded the flop tough vs given range (reverse implied odds and all that). also turn play might have been donktastic by me, as the check could have easily been pot control.

[waxhax0rs]

I think pot control goes sorta out the window when you call the raise imho. You have less than a PSB left.