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#21
10-25-2007, 09:25 PM
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Re: 200NL - 2 Really Sick River Decisions
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i think if folding either of these is even a question, you aren't playing properly [/ QUOTE ] I think by making this statement you are a poor hand reader. 
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#23
10-25-2007, 09:43 PM
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Re: 200NL - 2 Really Sick River Decisions
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[ QUOTE ] i think if folding either of these is even a question, you aren't playing properly [/ QUOTE ] I think by making this statement you are a poor hand reader. [/ QUOTE ] Are you kidding? There are you two hands that are beating you but you played the hand like any pair beats you. There's not much hand reading involved anymore.
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#25
10-25-2007, 09:49 PM
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Re: 200NL - 2 Really Sick River Decisions
I think the other posts are just as viable, you just want to reinforce your own opinion. If you bet the turn and this happened, a fold could be good, it's simply the wrong play since you checked the turn.
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#26
10-25-2007, 10:05 PM
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Re: 200NL - 2 Really Sick River Decisions
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I think the other posts are just as viable, you just want to reinforce your own opinion. If you bet the turn and this happened, a fold could be good, it's simply the wrong play since you checked the turn. [/ QUOTE ] so you think the turn check really opens up the bet/3-bet AI range of a 12/6/1.5 on a board where he doesnt expect any PP>7 to fold then?
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#27
10-25-2007, 10:06 PM
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13k posts and you're playing 200nl smd. [/ QUOTE ] i dont play 1/2 and id like to know how to play in a way that gets this villain to b/3-bet the river with a worse hand.
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#28
10-25-2007, 10:20 PM
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so you think the turn check really opens up the bet/3-bet AI range of a 12/6/1.5 on a board where he doesnt expect any PP>7 to fold then? [/ QUOTE ] Absolutely. Did he play this hand like an overpair? No he played it like a hand that completely missed, who says that this player even understands the concept that the only hand calling him is probably one that beats him. Also he might think that he cbet with a pair under the board, or maybe something like 8s.
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#29
10-25-2007, 10:30 PM
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When does he not have 777? Which hands does he choose to bet/3bet the river with? [/ QUOTE ] I agree you see 777 here a lot. On the other hand, when there are effectively 3 combos that have you beat and 18 combos of TT-QQ, even if he only plays TT-QQ like this 1 time in 18 a call is profitable. Seriously, you're getting better than 3 to 1 on the river and if Villain is paying attention he knows you never have 77 given the turn check, so value-betting JJ-QQ isn't totally out of the question (Zeebo theorem).
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#30
10-25-2007, 10:35 PM
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I'm not going to get into a flame war Appreciate responses from people like Futuredoc/Grandmelon/others. [/ QUOTE ] I feel left out. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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