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Old 10-18-2007, 01:31 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?

Villain in Hand 1 is unknown. Villain is the same in hands 2 and 3. Only thing noticeable from him in a few hands is that he called a button PFR from the SB with 59s.

H1 is 3-handed.

Hero (SB): $462.75
BB: $358.25
BTN: $227.15

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
BTN calls $2, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $8

Flop: ($22) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, BTN calls $16

Turn: ($54) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($54) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $36</font>, Hero folds

H2

UTG: $62.10
MP: $288.20
Hero (CO): $272.40
BTN: $122.20
SB: $209
BB: $153.85

Pre-Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $8</font>, Hero calls $8, BTN folds, SB calls $7, BB folds

Flop: ($26) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $17</font>, SB calls $17, MP folds

Turn: ($60) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $38</font>, Hero folds

H3

BB: $252.75
UTG: $36.15
Hero (CO): $228.75
BTN: $341.95
SB: $191.30

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $6</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22</font>, BTN calls $22, 3 folds

Flop: ($53) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $36</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $100</font>, Hero folds

Be honest. Be nice about it.

EDIT: To be clear. H1 is vs an unknown. H2 and H3 are vs the 59s guy.
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?

hand 1 is the only one that i don't think is just a quick standard fold. its 3 handed so his range is wide PF, and he has been seen calling a raise with 59s OOP, so he can easily be the kinda guy that calls on the flop with just overs, i dont hate a fold here, but i can see making a crying call being okay as well
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:39 PM
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Default Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?

i would...

1: bet the turn, as played i'd c/f too.

2: call once

3: stack off
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?

1 - bet/fold the turn. river fold seems fine.
2 - 22 on flop, eh I'd call turn too likely he has some combo draw type hand given the initial read
3 - edit: I forgot it's against same villain. I definitely stack off here.
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?

H1

I think its fine. Betting the turn is an option IP, but OOP not much you can do. Rivercard sucks aswell..I can see a call on a blank.

H2

I call turn..and fold to a river bet. Your button bet doesn't show much strength, he might be leading with a pretty wide range of pairs here.

H3

This is never a bluff and I don't think he can show up with AJ here. So I like the fold.
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:46 PM
Hopscotch Hopscotch is offline
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Default Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?

Isn't hand 3 a stack off given read?
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Old 10-18-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?

h1- I b/f the turn. As played I can't see myself calling, but you've played it so passively that it's really hard to know.

h2- I probably play the same. I can see an argument for calling, but I see huge hands here alot.

h3- I think I stack off especially given your experience with this player
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?

1- bet/fold the turn is my std. river fold is goot.

2- eh, i think that folding is okay, i typically call though and fold to another river bet. i think that he has 6x/draw or combo so much here. this is not a bad way for villan to play a set though.

3- don't fold. jesus.
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Old 10-18-2007, 05:47 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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Default Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?

[ QUOTE ]

H3

This is never a bluff and I don't think he can show up with AJ here. So I like the fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

WOW is this a bad read. Pretty much the opposite of what I would conclude:

a) opponent is a drooler
b) flop is paired, and people get retarded on paired flops

a + b = c) call/shove with fist-pump
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Old 10-18-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Some uncomfortable overpair folds?!?


grunch

Hand 1 - We are as one. I also.... fold. That board is more drawy than a [censored] art mueseum

Hand 2 - I'm not sure what I'd do, would depend on my perception of my table image. Might raise turn if I thought he was trying to be clever. But probably fold.

Hand 3 - SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE
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