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Re: Just for fun
Against a good handreader I think this is kinda neat because you rep very little on the turn, maybe AJ and that's about it. Should get some action back to you. This is very non-standard and is terrible against unknowns, but you know that. Neat line. Works a little better on a brickier turn though.
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Re: Just for fun
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problem is you can have a straight. [/ QUOTE ]agree 100% with this. I like the flop line, but the turn really sucks- there are so many hands that we lose value to by raising because of the board- villain has to fold like every pr+draw hand he has because there is so much that has him crushed. Call turn- there is only 1/6 (I think?) chance that another [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] falls, so either VB river when checked to or min raise? Interesting hand. |
#13
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Re: Just for fun
Yeah, but what can villain have that checks flop, bets turn...He is likely real weak himself and most of the time isn't putting anything more in the pot. I think I like a turn raise, maybe a bit bigger/bluffier(?), hoping he has something like AJ because you'd think he's pushing that...
This might be a hand where we say, OK we got all we're gonna get, let's raise turn and maximize against the few hands of his that we beat that can continue... |
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Re: Just for fun
You dont think we're more likely to squeeze value on the river? If we just call and villain checks river, we can bet the same $30 and get called more often than if we raise turn.
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Re: Just for fun
If the turn was lower than a 9 I like this a lot lot more as others have said.
I still like calling this type of turn (praying the river blanks) and raising pretty big, possibly shoving if he comes out strong. |
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Re: Just for fun
Grunch: I like a 3 bet pf here. I also like to bet the flop as a lot of turn cards can come to kill your action / kill your hand. I like the turn raise / call.
After reading responses and re-reading the hand, I can go either way on the flop. The fact that you check, called down TPWK and he won w/ TP slightly better kicker makes me like the turn raise. It looks like you’re trying to fold out a bad K / Q. Still, I bet the flop and check the turn if I’m ok with giving a free card and feel like getting tricky. Gives him a better chance to make a strong 2nd best hand and looks more like pot control or NFD. |
#17
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Re: Just for fun
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Grunch: I like a 3 bet pf here. [/ QUOTE ] Calling is way better imo. |
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Re: Just for fun
What do you run Jay? How often do you 3 bet a LAG CO open when on the button? In the blinds?
I'm personally raising a very wide range of hands here, however I also run 27/24/4. Would love to hear your thoughts as to why CC is way better here. |
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Re: Just for fun
I'm 23/20 or so. I've been into it a lot in other threads, and I don't really have time to go too much into it at the moment, but I 3bet really loose in this spot, but not with hands like this...
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#20
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Re: Just for fun
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You dont think we're more likely to squeeze value on the river? If we just call and villain checks river, we can bet the same $30 and get called more often than if we raise turn. [/ QUOTE ] That's a good point Casper. If the river is 2d for example, Hero may get looked up by a c/c or may even face a river bet from villain that we can raise... OTOH, the boards gonna get scarier for everyone the times another heart comes and probably a few other cards for villain...So, I still think we need to raise it on the turn, hope he's got the few hands that can continue, like AJ/TT/JhJx?/AT?. |
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