Big fold with top pair and nfd - Page 2

Irishman07 · #11 09-21-2007, 02:41 AM

Villain is a nit and bets into 4 people on the flop and 3 on the turn. The only hand that I think you're ahead of is 7h8h. The A is a good scare card for him but its just not likely he's turning a made hand like K9 into a bluff and generally nits won't bluff the flop with complete air multiway. If you knew the sb was gonna come along you could call but theres also a chance he shoves and then you're likely faced with a reshove from BB with you being forced to call likely having 20% or less equity. I'd fold it.

And raising is just terrible.

modnareno · #12 09-21-2007, 02:50 AM

Folding is never fun. Especially when you have outs to the nuts! He's either got a set and you'll win the rest of his monies when you make a flush, OR you just turned him and he'll check and you'll win with your pair.

BGnight · #13 09-21-2007, 02:54 AM

Yuck. This is a set up hand. If you think he's nitty I think you should fold even though this would be reeeeally hard for ME to do. If your certain SB is coming along then calling seems ok. I seriously doubt BB is gonna be bluffing an ace here.

Fonkey123 · #14 09-21-2007, 02:54 AM

I'd prefer a better read.

He's playing all combo draws like this right?!

shpanko · #15 09-21-2007, 04:07 AM

Do nits play combo draws hard? Do they even play suited connectors at all?!

I think this is a great fold Jay, nh.

Fonkey123 · #16 09-21-2007, 04:08 AM

4 to the flop. Even nits call with sooooted cards there.

duckyfuzz · #17 09-21-2007, 04:32 AM

Yeah it's a fold I think. Even if he had 78h I'm not too confident he would lead the turn with it like that.

Bulletproof Monk · #18 09-21-2007, 05:07 AM

raise flop

call turn

[censored] reads we have a monsta

shpanko · #19 09-21-2007, 05:26 AM

are you guys kidding me? Raise flop is atrocious, call turn is less bad but still not great when this guy's range is mostly sets.

Though he'd prob play 9hXh hands like this perhaps. Still I think the turn is a fold given the fact that he followed up his flop lead with a large turn bet when the A hit.

2Paul2 · #20 09-21-2007, 06:38 AM

Looks fine. Once he fires turn I think his range gets extremely narrow w/ your read.

I could see raising flop also though. Even if the guy is nitty he is getting a redic price when it comes to him pf so I think his range will be slightly wider than usual here so there are plenty of big draws he could have that you do vry well against. Also a nitty guy like this could easily have TT-QQ that he doesnt want to 3bet oop w/ all those callers an is now taking a stab at a good flop. Vs those you have gd fe an straight equity if called. If he does turn up w/ a set its not a disaster either.