Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 08-25-2007, 04:36 PM
JooWish622 JooWish622 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: New York City
Posts: 808
Default Re: TTT 5/T

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
seems to me like 60 bucks in by the river can't be good at all. what about leading the turn?

[/ QUOTE ]

He's gonna bluff most scare cards (dunno about a jack), and I don't wanna be leading the turn with the lower part of my range. I'm more curious about the river than previous streets.

[/ QUOTE ]

i think in a case like this, with this board development, I'm not sure if its a good idea to go for a river CR after missing a turn CR here.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 08-25-2007, 04:49 PM
EC10 EC10 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: not folding
Posts: 2,471
Default Re: TTT 5/T

i think this is a good spot to cr flop
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 08-25-2007, 05:47 PM
kura0 kura0 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 191
Default Re: TTT 5/T

can you explain that please?
dry board, topset, why are we checkraising without specific reads
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 08-25-2007, 05:49 PM
ipokeder ipokeder is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: asdgpoiwjgu9g
Posts: 1,531
Default Re: TTT 5/T

i guess cuz of [whoever] theorem which says c/ring blank flops is usually air trying to rep a set i think that you think that w/e ad infinitum
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 08-25-2007, 05:52 PM
AAismyfriend AAismyfriend is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Valuestacking myself
Posts: 2,907
Default Re: TTT 5/T

I like c/ring the flop here against a thinking player most of the time....but as played I think your line is best. nh.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 08-25-2007, 06:50 PM
king_of_drafts king_of_drafts is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: studying
Posts: 2,661
Default Re: TTT 5/T

[ QUOTE ]
yeah i think this should really probably be your standard line, c/ring this flop with TT just doesn't seem to be a good standard play since you got the deck crushed and most of your range on flatting this flop is going to be hands you're folding to a 2nd barrel. i mean, if OOP c/ring is a big part of your game (pretty sure it isn't), then yeah you should be doing it with TT more often and of course you C/R once in a while but def not as a standard. i think c/ring is way way better with 33/66 than with TT here.

leading river really i think is not good either. he's rarely calling with 9's and that's basically the only hand you're looking to get value out of, and he's going to bet the river a lot with air to try to get you fold 88-, a pair of 6's, maybe ace high or something.

i mean, if he pushes you probably have to fold, but he could have 99 here since your line is 33/66 just as easily as TT and it'd be so dubious for you to flatall OOP with a gutshot and overs or redraws or anything. plus he could put you on JT/9T since flop, turn, and river are pretty consistent with that as well... eh...

i dunno, i'd probably just call a shove anyway and berate him in chat if i lost. sick life.

[/ QUOTE ]

yea this is pretty spot on except that I think check raising 333 and 666 is not THAT much different from TTT and I'm gonna coldcall with close to the same frequency
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 08-25-2007, 07:19 PM
23act 23act is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 403
Default Re: TTT 5/T

i like the entire line. the river c/r is really dynamic tho and if he shoves there are a lot of factors that would go into you estimating the range he puts u on so its really situation dependent leaning towards a call imo

without specific history or a read im not convinced that c/r the flop is the best value line

c the turn is obv. given his flop range contains lots of air and overpairs which he'll bet on the J

leading the river is lame after he checks the turn
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 08-25-2007, 07:22 PM
ipokeder ipokeder is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: asdgpoiwjgu9g
Posts: 1,531
Default Re: TTT 5/T

well i guess "way way" is off but with 33/66, at least you're going to get called one street or two with JT/9T sometimes, whereas with TT the only legitimate time you're stacking someone is vs an overpair or an underset (legitimate meaning discluding situations where you get somebody to try to bluff you w/ air or a gutshot or something)
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 08-25-2007, 07:41 PM
Ship Ship McGipp Ship Ship McGipp is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: implied millionaire
Posts: 3,884
Default Re: TTT 5/T

i like this line just fine
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 08-27-2007, 12:35 PM
wtfsvi wtfsvi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Norway
Posts: 2,532
Default Re: TTT 5/T

What worse hand plays like this and then calls the river check raise?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.