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Old 07-24-2007, 12:33 PM
the_dal_kid the_dal_kid is offline
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

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88 at best a 2-1 fav, worst 50/50.
KJ at best 2-1 fav, worst 3-2 dog.
A2s best 3-2 fav, worst 2-1 dog
75s best NO Favorite, worst 2-1 dog

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missing the point

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Old 07-24-2007, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

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why is the A2s more likely to flop a flush draw than 75s? typo?


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its the probability for flopping flush or flush draw but not str8 or str8 draw (to make the 3 categories disjoint)
but as wrote i didnt make that myself, i am not completely sure about some details
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Old 07-24-2007, 12:56 PM
NoahSD NoahSD is offline
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

OOP: KJ, A2s, 88, 75s.
IP: KJ, 88, A2s, 75s.

In position, 88 gains a lot of strength because I can keep the pot small when it's correct to do so, and get really slim value at other times. The other hands obviously play way better in position, but not nearly to the extent that 88 does IMHO.
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:02 PM
BLdSWtTRs BLdSWtTRs is offline
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

KJ is definetly the best with 100bb.
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

I think the other 3 should be behind the 88s just because 88 has so much more showdown value then any of the other hands and you are in position and are going to be checked to almost every time.

Im pretty surprised to hear arguments for other hands.
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

There's a difference between asking "which of the four hands would you rather 3-bet" vs. "which of the four would you rather have in a 3-bet pot". Jman is asking the latter.
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

being in pos i like 88 more than 57s now, although would be less inclined to 3bet it (not sure if that's what Jman is asking: i know he said which would you rather have but for me that seems like a pointless ? unless it's instructive about whether or not to 3bet).
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:17 PM
BLdSWtTRs BLdSWtTRs is offline
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being in pos i like 88 more than 57s now, although would be less inclined to 3bet it (not sure if that's what Jman is asking: i know he said which would you rather have but for me that seems like a pointless ? unless it's instructive about whether or not to 3bet).

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I was wondering how in the hell you had 88 behind but I pretty much agree with you the most...
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:25 PM
Orlando Salazar Orlando Salazar is offline
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

Phil, this question has a really solid answer, do you really expect people to give it away here?

Edit: omg people are giving legit answers, NL is over
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Old 07-24-2007, 01:26 PM
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88, kj, 75, a2
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