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Old 09-10-2007, 06:34 PM
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:25 PM
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Man that took ages to read. I prolly have no right to post here..

I don't know how better to ask this, but does PA ever fold to your bet? Doesn't he always shove?

If he does fold hands, are they hands like he had? Somewhere in this thread it was suggested that it would be far more profitable for PA to check raise the river with big hands that value bet them himself.

If thats true then surely he has c-raises alot of the time, and has to do it with his bluffs as well as his big hands. He has far less big hands, so it would seem that you should call more often.

I'm just wondering how often he c/f this river?
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Old 09-10-2007, 07:41 PM
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J,

Do you think he is aware of your ability to make big calls on drawy boards like that 55 call v cts that was posted?

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Anyone have a link?
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Old 09-12-2007, 01:24 PM
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FWIW your hand def. looks like an ace.
you C-bet the flop get called, pick up top pair so you have showdown value so obv check behind.
then when he checks again to you time to value bet the ace.
for that reason from villian's perspective its a great spot for a value shove river CR.
i def. agree with what magic ninja said about the fact that if you are going to value bet the river in these spots vs good tricky players you def. have to be willing to call some of theses shoves.
however i think in this spot your beat.
the thing is ppl keep talking about how thin of a value bet this is on the river, but its not a value bet its a bluff because he's never calling here with a worse hand, and when he does CR bluff river he puts you in a -EV spot so you have no real value to betting the river, because the combined times when he makes you fold the best hand on the river and call with the worst hand on the river takes away any value.

that being said if you are going to "value bet" river in this spot you have to call sometimes so whether you called and lost this hand or called and won is irrelevant cuz you have to be calling sometimes and about 1/2 the time you'll look silly.

guess what i'm trying to say is i prolly wouldn't bet this river vs good tricky opponent however once i do i am going to make the call at least 1/2 the time.

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Old 11-02-2007, 11:40 PM
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J,

Do you think he is aware of your ability to make big calls on drawy boards like that 55 call v cts that was posted?

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