2007 Toronto Blue Jays Thread

[aal113086]

3rd place in the AL east.... thread over?

[mosdef]

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3rd place in the AL east.... thread over?

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There's a good chance they finish third, but it's hardly a given. They did finish ahead of the Red Sox last year, you know.

[vin17]

Sort of forgot about this thread. JP's been pretty quiet with the rotation.
Thompson signs; Frasor re-signs
Overbay re-signs
Fasano signs MnL contract

-Thompson was a solid signing. Even if he doesn't pan out, it won't have been an expensive risk.
-Frasor had a rough start last year, but needed to be resigned.
-Overbay is another Johnny Olerud, minus the BA.
-Current rumours include JP possibly tabling an offer for Boomer Wells if the Padres thing falls through, but it's still highly unlikely; Alex Rios was being shopped to the Dodgers for Billingsley and either Kemp or Broxton as well as to Philly for Myers, but Gillick shot it down.

[suppasonic]

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-Alex Rios was being shopped to the Dodgers for Billingsley and either Kemp or Broxton

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I couldn't see the Dodgers doing this even if it was just Bills.

[vin17]

Agreed. Rios + Mid level Prospect.

[Vyse]

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In a career year he wasn't a top ten MVP candidate.

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Most MVP candidates tend to be on teams that make the playoffs. Over the past few years the Jays have failed to field a truly playoff caliber team.
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Lilly is much better than Marcum, Janessen and McGowan and to suggest otherwise is ridiculous.

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Of course, as it stands now any baseball person with half a brain would take a team of Lilly's over a team of those guys. Lilly also happens to be an 8 year veteran who is accustomed to pitching every five days in the bigs. The three mentioned above, especially McGowan, have limited experience which leaves their futures undetermined. Although I think is the make or break year for McGowan. If he doesn't come through, then JP needs to cut his losses and move on.

You keep saying that 'average pitchers' are hard to come by and are thus very valuable...Is that why Gil Meche got 5 years/55 mil from KC? Because Lilly's career averages are actually worse than Meche's, and Meche got the bigger contract. Or is it because Meche (along with Burnett) are considered to have untapped potential to consistently put up great numbers; after all, they got the same contract.

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Are all Jays fans like this?

Jays will be lucky to finish third again. I love it when a team spends a lot but is really spinning their wheels. It also doesn't help that they have the two best teams in baseball in their division, a team with some of the best young in baseball, and another team finally getting their act together.

Here's a good example of how

[Pudge714]

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In a career year he wasn't a top ten MVP candidate.

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Most MVP candidates tend to be on teams that make the playoffs. Over the past few years the Jays have failed to field a truly playoff caliber team.

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Regardless of team he was not one of the ten best players in the AL although he was probably somewhere around 15.

I really like the Thomson and Overbay signings.

Vyse
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Jays will be lucky to finish third again.

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Do you feel like putting your money where your mouth is?

[Golden_Rhino]

The Jays can contend, but the rotation is scary. If everyone stays healthy it could be decent, but none of the guys in the rotation have been able to do that.

[Thremp]

Jays are a pretty big fave to finish third if my numbas are correct.

[wisehandpoker]

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Are all Jays fans like this?

Jays will be lucky to finish third again.

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I'll bet you $200 they finish 3rd or higher.