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Old 08-30-2006, 05:23 AM
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Default Re: live etiquette: he hasn\'t mucked but doesn\'t want to show \'em

I've called down my opponent busted flush draw with ace high in a tournment, and with the same sittuation after an awkward moment he said I told you your good, turned his hand up and the dealer said pair of dueces and waited for me to show down. I just held my cards than the jigg was up! I showed and lost. WTF dealer?
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Old 08-30-2006, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: live etiquette: he hasn\'t mucked but doesn\'t want to show \'em

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I've called down my opponent busted flush draw with ace high in a tournment, and with the same sittuation after an awkward moment he said I told you your good, turned his hand up and the dealer said pair of dueces and waited for me to show down. I just held my cards than the jigg was up! I showed and lost. WTF dealer?

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muck next time
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Old 08-30-2006, 08:29 AM
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Default Re: live etiquette: he hasn\'t mucked but doesn\'t want to show \'em

creedofhubris,

People try this all the time at my local game, make him show every single time.
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Old 08-30-2006, 10:31 AM
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creedofhubris,

People try this all the time at my local game, make him show every single time.

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Old 08-30-2006, 10:41 AM
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Default Re: live etiquette: he hasn\'t mucked but doesn\'t want to show \'em

normally ill say something like one pair, or A high if I made a calldown, and thell muck. If they have a pair too well generally each show our pair card and not the second.
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Old 08-30-2006, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: live etiquette: he hasn\'t mucked but doesn\'t want to show \'em

If they say I've got it, I normally just turn over my hand.
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Old 08-30-2006, 09:47 AM
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If they say I've got it, I normally just start raking the pot.

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Old 08-30-2006, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: live etiquette: he hasn\'t mucked but doesn\'t want to show \'em

usually he's expecting you to call your hand here, like say "a pair" or "ace high" or something. this is one of those things that I feel like people always used to do but not so much anymore. saying "show or muck" is fine but might be considered a little rude by some older players. I almost always call my hand in your spot.

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Old 08-30-2006, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: live etiquette: he hasn\'t mucked but doesn\'t want to show \'em

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usually he's expecting you to call your hand here, like say "a pair" or "ace high" or something. this is one of those things that I feel like people always used to do but not so much anymore. saying "show or muck" is fine but might be considered a little rude by some older players. I almost always call my hand in your spot.

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That sounds exploitable. You just claim a better hand than what you have (in this situation) and then say you misread the cards if he doesn't muck and you have to show. Especially if you've called down with ace high and you suspect he's on some small pair due to this interplay on the river; "bluffing" him into mucking would be an enormous coup.
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Old 08-30-2006, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: live etiquette: he hasn\'t mucked but doesn\'t want to show \'em

very risky, though. if he mucks and someone else wants to see your hand and you have mis-called it they might award your opponent the pot. bad situation to be in. just don't be a douche and everything will be fine. if you want to see his hand, say 'muck or show'. if you dont care, just table your hand or announce it correctly.
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