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Old 11-28-2007, 01:38 PM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Pair and draw facing opposition

No stats on villain at the time. This is the second time in a row he did this so I figured I would peel one and see what he does on the turn. Unfortunately the first time he did this I never got to see his hand.

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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($56.90)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($55.10)</font>
SB ($111.95)
<font color="#C00000">BB ($43.50)</font>
UTG ($82.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($3.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($15.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero....
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:50 PM
il_martilo il_martilo is offline
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Default Re: Pair and draw facing opposition

Pushing was my first instinct, but I don't like it for a bunch of reasons. First, I don't think he is folding here, and it actually wouldn't be all that big of a raise. IMO, villian likes his hand enough that he is willing to call an all in on this board.

I would call and hopefully hit and ship it on the river. If we whiff, I would consider bluffing a Q/K river if villian checks quickly. Other than that, fold when he bets.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default Re: Pair and draw facing opposition

I call. Fold riv ui. Decent odds, many outs, nice IO.
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: Pair and draw facing opposition

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I call. Fold riv ui. Decent odds, many outs, nice IO.

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What about if he has a set, then how many outs do we have
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Old 11-28-2007, 02:05 PM
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I call. Fold riv ui. Decent odds, many outs, nice IO.

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What about if he has a set, then how many outs do we have

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Heh?

He just did this before so we can assume he do this with a wider range than sets. We can assume anyone does this without sets obv, but he's more likely to given the info we got.

Sure, sometimes some outs are dead vs 2-pair/set/fd, but I'd guess we have about 11 outs on average. We're getting 2.5:1 on our call in direct odds, we need 3.2:1 (assuming 11 outs) so we need to win on average $7 when we hit and that's easily doable esp since our fd is a runner-runner.

Also sometimes we're ahead vs a fd or some random crap and get a free sd.
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