Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > Limit Texas Hold'em > Small Stakes Limit

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-04-2007, 01:44 PM
Frond Frond is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Liddsville
Posts: 1,796
Default A Possible missed Slowplay

This one may qualify for a slowplay but then again maybe not. From a few weeks ago

8/16 live. My image is tight, only showing down big hands in the last hour.

Hero is UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and raises, UTG1(plays too many hands too far)calls, folded to CO(plays way too loose pre and post) who calls, rest all fold. 3 ways to the flop.

(6.5 SBs) Flop comes A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Hero leads out and both fold [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img].

My thinking here was that the way these 2 players were just calling all the time that they would call me but now I think that with a 3 way pot with a monster hand here in a small pot that I could have better afforded to let them possibly catch up a bit and wait to the turn to bet out.

Thoughts?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-04-2007, 02:23 PM
Tugg Tugg is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: lost in translation
Posts: 65
Default Re: A Possible missed Slowplay

If your ever going to try it in small stakes this is it.The problem is with your tight image its pretty obvious. To be honest I usually bet this with these type of opponents because they called 2 cold pf so they must like something about their hand.If your lucky someone has the last A or a pp and will call you down.It isn't likely that anyone will pick up a draw on the turn, and its more likely they'll fold to the bigger bet with only 1 card to come. I'd also show this and maybe get some bluff value when an A hits and everyone shows weakness.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-04-2007, 02:24 PM
James. James. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: McFadden for Heisman
Posts: 5,963
Default Re: A Possible missed Slowplay

this situation usually sets up one of two ways. you are going to get action or you aren't. this may sound simplistic, but either they are holding a hand that they are going to give action or they are folding. if they have a pp it's around 4-5% that they catch on the turn. if they have two unpaired cards it's about 13%(each) that they catch on the turn. factor in that they might pick up a backdoor draw of some sort and these %s might increase.

but this brings us back to my original point. fish incorrectly peel with only a backdoor draw most of the time anyway so if they have one they'll often call the flop bet. so pretty much it depends on how loose a peeler they are. some players peel most flops so if they are that type you might be better off betting.

overall, i don't really think it matters. unless they boat up on the turn you aren't getting alot of bets in. so since the pot isn't big and you have a monster i don't see a huge problem or benefit from checking the flop.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-04-2007, 03:24 PM
*TT* *TT* is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Vehicle Chooser For Life!
Posts: 17,198
Default Re: A Possible missed Slowplay

Frond - UTG in a live game this is a red flag for A's in your opponents minds. I am not a fan of most slowplays but you dont have much of a choice here - this is rare spot that calls for fancy play.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-04-2007, 03:59 PM
One Outer One Outer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: in a transitional period
Posts: 1,180
Default Re: A Possible missed Slowplay

I'm kind of the mind that they're either going to pay you or not. Maybe letting a card comes off helps. I guess I usually bet. Perhaps I shouldn't do that.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-04-2007, 11:39 PM
Frond Frond is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Liddsville
Posts: 1,796
Default Re: A Possible missed Slowplay

I contemplated a SP here but the way that these two had been playing(I mean calling)I figured I'd just bet out and see what happens. I should have however tried the SP out I think. See if they could catch something at least. No biggie I guess.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-05-2007, 01:28 AM
Xhad Xhad is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: .25/.50 6max - stars
Posts: 5,289
Default Re: A Possible missed Slowplay

[ QUOTE ]
this situation usually sets up one of two ways. you are going to get action or you aren't. this may sound simplistic, but either they are holding a hand that they are going to give action or they are folding. if they have a pp it's around 4-5% that they catch on the turn. if they have two unpaired cards it's about 13%(each) that they catch on the turn. factor in that they might pick up a backdoor draw of some sort and these %s might increase.

but this brings us back to my original point. fish incorrectly peel with only a backdoor draw most of the time anyway so if they have one they'll often call the flop bet. so pretty much it depends on how loose a peeler they are. some players peel most flops so if they are that type you might be better off betting.

overall, i don't really think it matters. unless they boat up on the turn you aren't getting alot of bets in. so since the pot isn't big and you have a monster i don't see a huge problem or benefit from checking the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is pretty much my thoughts.

If someone bets I wouldn't raise though, unless you think the flop bettor almost has to have 3x.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:29 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.