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Old 07-30-2007, 08:35 PM
Mossberg Mossberg is offline
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Default Re: UB NL200: 86s street by street

i just call flop usually. and yea, just calling again on this turn.
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:40 PM
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guys... wtf at calling twice

if i'm not 3betting flop i'm pushing the turn
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:42 PM
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guys... wtf at calling twice

if i'm not 3betting flop i'm pushing the turn

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How many worse hands call a turn shove?

Is your shove based on a metagame considerations?
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:50 PM
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guys... wtf at calling twice

if i'm not 3betting flop i'm pushing the turn

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How many worse hands call a turn shove?

Is your shove based on a metagame considerations?

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shove... min raise... something, otherwise we are approaching the hand as if we are behind villains range, which we definitely are not. we have no reason to think villain is good, lets give him a chance to make a big mistake

the ace doesn't really change the strength of hands here to me really at all, why are we so scared of it?
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Old 07-30-2007, 08:53 PM
Mike MacIntosh Mike MacIntosh is offline
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the ace doesn't really change the strength of hands here to me really at all, why are we so scared of it?

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It changes villains range for calling a shove on the turn. Put yourself in villains shoes with 99, TT, 8x.
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Old 07-30-2007, 10:47 PM
bilbo-san bilbo-san is offline
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the ace doesn't really change the strength of hands here to me really at all, why are we so scared of it?

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It changes villains range for calling a shove on the turn. Put yourself in villains shoes with 99, TT, 8x.

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This is what I was thinking.

I shoved the turn because I was like, ZOMG HE'LL PUT ME ON AK.

Afterwards, though, I thought, if villain has a clue, he won't ever put me on AK and I am making it really easy for him to fold TT.

Hence, I posted this.

OH, and for those who care about results, villain snap-called with 22. Shrug.
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