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Old 07-12-2007, 06:47 AM
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Default Should i valuebet this river ?

villian 52\14, 100 hands. Very passive, likes check-call modes, but only with "good" hands. He doesn't looks like stupid idiot, just unexpereinced player with a some basic leaks.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $439.35
BB: $1,002.65
UTG: $473.00
Hero (MP): $557.65
CO: $356.40
BTN: $323.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $12.00

Flop: ($34) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $24.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $72.00</font>, BB calls $48.00

Turn: ($178) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $150.00</font>, BB calls $150.00

River: ($478) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero ??

Could he check flush - YES ? i see such guys before. What hand could call my push? AT, and probably T8.
So, i think the best line against such donk is 100-120 and fold to a push OR just check.
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:50 AM
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Default Re: Should i valuebet this river ?

push
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:12 AM
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Default Re: Should i valuebet this river ?

Yeah easy value shove
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: Should i valuebet this river ?

so he had ATo here more often then flush?
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:19 AM
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Default Re: Should i valuebet this river ?

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so he had ATo here more often then flush?

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this guys looks retarded - don't waste a lot of energy thinking about what hands he is going to find a call with

also, most players like this shove river when the hit their flush
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: Should i valuebet this river ?

Checking is probably better than pushing.

However, I'd prefer a $125 bet and call a push.

We are really looking to extract value from hands like 98/JT/QT/KT/AT. I think only AT calls our shove and the rest fold. Most of these hands will call a smallish bet and AT might even CR.
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:31 AM
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Default Re: Should i valuebet this river ?

If he is retarted and he has has KT-T9 he could call 100$, and i don't need image against him (also we could easy fold to RAI).

Against regular we have 2 options - push and check, and check looks really sucks. But I think it could be more deeper hand then "easy shove" against such type of player, cause we have option bet like 100-150$.
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: Should i valuebet this river ?

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Checking is probably better than pushing.

However, I'd prefer a $125 bet and call a push.

We are really looking to extract value from hands like 98/JT/QT/KT/AT. I think only AT calls our shove and the rest fold. Most of these hands will call a smallish bet and AT might even CR.

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I'm pretty sure he doesn't C\R AT here, so I'll fold. Other is exactly my thought process [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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