Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 11-25-2007, 10:11 PM
Jamsym Jamsym is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Value Town
Posts: 271
Default Re: co vs. button against 2p2er

Flop and turn are both fine.

Are you planning to bet/fold this river if he raises you?

I don't think i bet our here because i hate bet/folding.

Check call probably better.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-25-2007, 10:16 PM
Eagles Eagles is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Saving the season
Posts: 8,324
Default Re: co vs. button against 2p2er

OMG Betting this river as a bluff is beyond terrible nobody ever folds Jx or better. If a better hand folds they prob misclicked. I think for value its very thin I'm not sure if its good.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-25-2007, 10:19 PM
Yeti Yeti is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 8,332
Default Re: co vs. button against 2p2er

[ QUOTE ]
you guys who think this might be for value are so funny

[/ QUOTE ]

could not agree more
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 11-25-2007, 10:21 PM
Trivial Trivial is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: There hides the Crowman...
Posts: 902
Default Re: co vs. button against 2p2er

[ QUOTE ]
i take that back it's a RANGE MERGE lol

[/ QUOTE ]

well i'd definitely be firing three (for value, to be clear) with KT or AT.

now i admit that with a seven kicker this becomes very thin and a river check can be argued for but since i would not want to fold if villain bets river (leak?) i think we are better off getting a further bet out of him if he does happen to hold something he feels like calling with.

whether we win the hand or not, he will without a doubt be discouraged from making marginal calldowns in future hands, in any case, which is quite helpful considering he's on your direct left.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 11-25-2007, 10:30 PM
jfish jfish is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: what else is on my mind grapes?
Posts: 8,150
Default Re: co vs. button against 2p2er

c/c the turn.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 11-25-2007, 10:39 PM
quickfetus quickfetus is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Addicted to Chinese
Posts: 489
Default Re: co vs. button against 2p2er

Completely don't get/don't like river bet.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-25-2007, 11:09 PM
nuggetz87 nuggetz87 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: labtop
Posts: 6,175
Default Re: co vs. button against 2p2er

ok well what really "happened" is i misread the board/hand and thought i turned a straight. then i sent this to a couple people and talked with them about it and didn't realize i didnt have a straight until i looked again.

still thought it was interesting, i probably would have bet turn and checked river if i knew what my hand was. c/cing turn sounds fine too.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-25-2007, 11:33 PM
DaveC101 DaveC101 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sledding down EV graph
Posts: 28
Default Re: co vs. button against 2p2er

I kind of like the river bet as played. From your last post I'm assuming he folded on the river so I may be biased here, but it definitely looks like 910 or flush draw. He'd most likely raise an 8 on earlier streets, and probably raises a J on flop to see where he stands or to represent an 8...drawing hand seems most likely in the end.

As for check/calling, I think most players will fire the river in position if checked to them in this situation regardless of whether he has a hand or not to make you fold a busted draw or maybe a 10.

nh
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-25-2007, 11:50 PM
wrschultz wrschultz is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,950
Default Re: co vs. button against 2p2er

I'm pretty sure check/calling turn is best against almost all villains. River bet is also pretty bad against most villains.

Obviously, this is based on you reading your hand correctly!
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-25-2007, 11:50 PM
terp terp is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: i fire three shots like a porn star
Posts: 5,522
Default Re: co vs. button against 2p2er

[ QUOTE ]
ok well what really "happened" is i misread the board/hand and thought i turned a straight.

[/ QUOTE ]

7...8...T...T...J

WE HAVE A STRAIGHT
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.