Hey everyone (Prelim WW idea, need some help)

Jack Bando · #1 07-06-2007, 11:45 PM

Hey everyone, I came up with idea for a ww game, and in a few weeks/months I might try to unload it on the POGgers, but without any exp in making/running one, I'd like to show my prelim rules of my game to see what everyone thinks. I know some are real good at pointing out flaws in game rules, so that's why I'm asking.

Good Guys

*Seer #1-100% chance to see-has a mason as well
*#1's Mason
*3-5 cops-mason's with 50% chance peek (must fail if last two worked)
*FBI agents (2-masoned)-75% chance of their peek going through
*another Masonry (2)(If Seer #1 and Mason are dead-each die back to back days)
*vanillagers

Evils (1 NK a night with an execption)

*Wolf A-can kill anyone who says his username/nickname (LuckayLuck or Luckay, or LL) in a post or vice-versa that day

*Wolf B-Can do same as Wolf A, can also do this with replies and quotes if they make the trade (see below)

*Wolf C-Can kill anyone who votes for Wolf A, but will die be dead either right away or after the next night ends (his choice)

*Wolf D-See C, but Wolf B and not A

I.CLAIMING=AUTO-DEATH THAT NIGHT , in addition to the normal NK(no side claims-those are also auto-death)

II.Trading gives Wolf B the reply/quote power, will die halfway between that night and final poss day. (8 poss days, done on N4, 8-4=4/2=2+4=6. Will die N6 if still alive)

III.Wolf A cannot trade, ever.

IV.A/B can give their kill power to any of the other wolves, peeked as non-evil at that point by cops/FBI

V.Must recieve ability back two nights later or auto dead.

VI.Can not NK someone if you gave up your ability.

VII.If B gives this up after the trade and gets their ability back, they lose trade power, but may trade again, but will lose half of remaining days

VIII.If A/B die, their kill power goes to C/D and he can use his the reply/quote ability without losing time.

IX.Good side does not know of power loses, the trade, or which day C/D did their vote kill.

X.Majority needed after day 2.

I got the idea from a Manga (it made me think of WW that's why I thought of this), so that's why some parts may seem weird.

I might change Wolf A's rule to the last day and the current day and B's for their entire time in game with the trade being in play and as long as A without the trade.

Thoughts?

lastchance · #2 07-06-2007, 11:48 PM

Strategy:
Don't post a thing. Store peeks, ship it.

Jack Bando · #3 07-06-2007, 11:53 PM

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Hmm, good points, I knew you'd appear and point stuff out. There'd be some kind of one post a day rule and maybe I'd weaken the wolves powers (not the vice versa part) and I'd tie Seer #1 and his mason together. (One dies, other goes next day) and untie them from the villa masonry.

lastchance · #4 07-06-2007, 11:54 PM

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Hmm, good points, I knew you'd appear and point stuff out. There'd be some kind of one post a day rule and maybe I'd weaken the wolves powers (not the vice versa part) and I'd tie Seer #1 and his mason together. (One dies, other goes next day) and untie them from the villa masonry.

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It's very easy to deny the wolves a night-kill. Incredibly easy.

lastchance · #5 07-06-2007, 11:56 PM

Maybe I'm misreading the rules. The wolves get a normal NK on top of these secret NK's correct?

Jack Bando · #6 07-07-2007, 12:03 AM

No, only a kill can be used if the Wolf's conidition is met.

But, if I'm wolf A and you vote me, I can kill you tonight or C could, but would die in 0-1 days because of it. Or if I vote you, I can kill you that night.

And if the kill opitions are low, A/B could give their kill power (IV-VII) to C/D and have them do it that night and the next.

Like I said LC, I'm just throwing things out there, just thought of this week and never made a game before, so if I actually run this one, my first post in this thread might not even resemble the finished game (But it should retain some of it's uniqueness, the LOTR WW's would have been dumb without the One Ring in them)

lastchance · #7 07-07-2007, 12:10 AM

I would deny wolves any chance of getting a night kill and lynch vanillagers for the first 10 or so days until there's a mortal lock on the game.

lastchance · #8 07-07-2007, 12:12 AM

*Seer #1-100% chance to see-has a mason as well
*#1's Mason
*3-5 cops-mason's with 50% chance peek (must fail if last two worked)
*FBI agents (2-masoned)-75% chance of their peek going through
*another Masonry (2)(If Seer #1 and Mason are dead-each die back to back days)
*vanillagers

Plus, this with only 4 wolves is just ridiculous.

Jack Bando · #9 07-07-2007, 12:13 AM

Most people switch their votes a lot in game, and if you vote a wolf or vice versa, you could be NKed that day/the next. But, this is in normal games, there'd by less of that in this one. Thanks for the input so far LC, I hope I/someone thinks of something to help fix it

lastchance · #10 07-07-2007, 12:15 AM

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Most people switch their votes a lot in game, and if you vote a wolf or vice versa, you could be NKed that day/the next. But, this is in normal games, there'd by less of that in this one. Thanks for the input so far LC, I hope I/someone thinks of something to help fix it

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If you gave wolves one nk per night and gave them these extra kills on top of it optional, that would be fairer. (thought I still think about just lynching villagers straight down the line).