Folding flopped straight on mono

[Bond18]

Tilt 30r, how's this look?

Hero: 9k
Villain: 12k

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $60/$120
9 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, 5 folds, 5 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($420, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $300</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $1230</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4110, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $4110)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2700</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to $5400</font>, Hero folds.

[dmk]

stacks?

Not so sure I love this fold. Doesn't his range include 888 and 2prs that waited for a safe turn card before going apeshit?

[Bond18]

DAMN YOU CONVERTER, i'll go fix that.

[adanthar]

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Not so sure I love this fold. Doesn't his range include 888 and 2prs that waited for a safe turn card before going apeshit?

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not with a minraise *and* a dry sidepot, it doesn't

[Bakes]

adanthar is rite. imo.

[Confused1]

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not with a minraise *and* a dry sidepot, it doesn't

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fwiw, that side pot is not dry the second that Bonds puts his bet in. Theres $4100 in the main put and he just put $2700 in the side pot. If I'm the MP1 guy, I see bonds bet (in addition to value bets) as 'I think I'm ahead of shorty and want to isolate him' (a fairly wide range). I see the minraise coming with a lot of hands here, too, not just ones ahead of a straight/straight-flush draw.

If the minraisers FE is so much that we're folding straights / straight-flush draws (getting 4.5:1 odds), then he should be minraising you here every single time (that's at least 1/2 of the hands bonds leads with, imo).

I think I'm inclined to timebank some and ship it in here.


Edit: I may be overstimating bonds lead range, so I'm going to ask (Bond18): what do you do after that flop with KsJx?, what about Ts9x? What about JhJd? AhQh? QhJs? Are any of these leads, too?

[Confused1]

I woulda edited that reply, but it won't let me. I shouldn't post pre-coffee. I misread the hand and thought the minraise came on the flop - oh well, have at it...

Sorry Adanthar - I shoulda known better (hangs head and walks off).

[djk123]

i guess u cud fold turn now but just flatting the flop is a big mistake imo

[VespaRally]

just shove on him,,i think ur ahead of his range
if ur behind you got a one outer to the nuts ( Js )