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Old 11-09-2007, 03:52 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 deep AA tough river

ya.

i just realized how small a raise that would be though.
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 deep AA tough river

bet ~700, fold to shove
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 deep AA tough river

ehhh this is brutal but I think it's is a fold. when he calls the turn he is either drawing to a flush or has already made a set. He might have JJ-KK but in that case he wont shove river.

Most Ts and midpairs fold out turn, if he did call your turn bet light then that's a pretty sweet card for him to bluff at, but like you said he has been playing straightforward. More importantly, your hand is very transparent (QQ-AA) so he probably isnt trying to get you off it since most ppl dont fold overpairs.

edit: so c/f river.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 deep AA tough river

After missing a flop-raise from your opponent, I hate your turn size bet.

With that said, I'm calling river. But wait, what hands do I put him on for me to call river? The double float? Ok, I fold and pretended I had AKo so I don't go on tilt.

Edit: I forgot to include Villain's hand ranges that contain 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] with its sooted cousins and connectors. Now it's more of a fold. But I'm still tilted from the hand because I love aces and aces don't lose.
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 deep AA tough river

think he has QQ ?
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:55 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 deep AA tough river

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Meh, the fact that a good player should probably turn something like 99 into a bluff by the river makes me want to call. But he might be overcome by the fact that 99 beats Ak and check it back even though he probably shouldnt on that river. If I had a set here id probably value shove myself. So my hand is pretty defined as one pair right? Given what my hand is defined ass, AA is the strongest part of that and if he is playing well and realizes my range he should be shoving as a bluff alot because the only things I can call with are AA AQ KK. I doubt hes value shoving KK because he doesnt need to turn that into a bluff and there isnt so much value, but it is possible.

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why are you shoving a set and not aa? how do they differ here besides when villain has specifically qt? i think your frequencies are off in this spot if i'm understanding you correctly.

as far as the hand goes i think you should bet slightly bigger on flop and turn so the river stacks are slightly less than a psb. as it is i'd fold, though there certainly is an argument for calling against many opponents.

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I dont think he has a set often at all.


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Old 11-09-2007, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 deep AA tough river

got to fold not worth it
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 deep AA tough river

ahnuld, you can't put 200 bbs in with one pair, ask apestyles
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:30 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 deep AA tough river

Fold, not worth it, he simply isn't on a move often enough to justify calling, for the times you are running into sets/flushes etc.
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Old 11-09-2007, 06:34 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 deep AA tough river

I fold... I don't think many pple at 5/10 will get tricky with mid pp here as they beat AK and that is about all you beat.
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