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Old 07-04-2007, 01:07 AM
NinaWilliams NinaWilliams is offline
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Default I call down

Villain is 25/17/2.35. This feels like a standard call down, but I never win here.

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
4 folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6SB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9BB
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: I call down

wow i don't think it's a standard calldown at all. he has a pair here a huge amount of the time like a3 or a6 or something, or k9. i often fold the turn.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:33 AM
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Yeah I fold the turn. Chances are you are beat. Don't forget AK is also in his range as well as all the pairs. I think you are behind to often.
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:37 AM
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ak probably caps pf
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Old 07-04-2007, 01:38 AM
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but yea pock pairs too good call
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: I call down

this is pretty close to how i play this hand most of the time, sometimes i fold the river but.
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:38 AM
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Without a read, I will typically call this down, at least the first time. There are enough draws on this flop for hero to c/r. Hearts, stuff like 45, 78, etc. Most of the draws would be beating you by the river other than hearts. I'd call here just to make sure villian won't 3barrel a low flush draw.
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:50 AM
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Instead of calling down, wouldn't it be better to raise the turn and take the free showdown?
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:49 AM
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Instead of calling down, wouldn't it be better to raise the turn and take the free showdown?

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NO! read Stox book on when to to do that. But basically you shouldnt when you have outs if 3-bet and you shouldnt unless you can fold a better hand. Raising for free SD in this spot is terrible.

Nina. I def dont think this is a standard call down. A lot of draws got there in particular on the river. I think you have a pretty easy river fold.
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Old 07-04-2007, 04:56 AM
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Nina. I def dont think this is a standard call down. A lot of draws got there in particular on the river. I think you have a pretty easy river fold.

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I agree with you on the river. I should at least see the river here and call if the river is like the K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], correct?
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