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Old 04-29-2007, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Hand (NLSNG)

What I meant by that was that he is aggressive enough. He floats way way too many flops so his range is still super super wide after the flop.
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Old 04-29-2007, 05:44 PM
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also I cant see what you are quoting in that first part.
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Old 04-29-2007, 06:26 PM
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He could be a great player, but right now his game is a bit too aggressive, and he can't ratchet it down when he needs to.

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Old 04-29-2007, 07:02 PM
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ok so how do I work out what his range needs to be for this to be a breakeven call?

I am calling 785 to win 1325. So I need 29.6% equity against his range to make a breakeven call right?

I did (785/1325)/2. I hope that is right.

Messing with pokerstove now. If I give a range that doesn't include kings or monsters I am way ahead. I'm going to try giving him a more favorable range and seeing what the stove says.
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Old 04-29-2007, 07:30 PM
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Definitely include monsters, his sudden slowing down is super suspicious.
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Old 04-29-2007, 08:11 PM
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ok here is a range I tried. I suppose a King could be in there so I put all kings in their, expect for AK of course.

KK-QQ,88,33,A8s,A8o,K2s+,K2o+,J8s,T8s,98s,J8o,T8o,98o ,84o+

my Q9 is ~40% against that range, which is more than enough to call (remember I get 1325 If I make the 785 call).

I also think he is capable of doing this with an 8.
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Old 04-30-2007, 07:29 PM
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dboy this hand is hard enough that I'd have to be there in the moment to make this decision. Sorry that doesnt help I know but this is a spot where u really need an unadulterated read.
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Old 04-30-2007, 07:34 PM
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dboy this hand is hard enough that I'd have to be there in the moment to make this decision. Sorry that doesnt help I know but this is a spot where u really need an unadulterated read.

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I'm starting to think that too. At the time it happened I just felt that I should call. Of course I don't always trust this feeling, so I felt the need to post it.
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Old 04-30-2007, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: Interesting Hand (NLSNG)

Haven't read all the replies, just runned through it.

Cwar's is right about the good general rule in CB'ing 120 instead.
I usually bet turn also, but this is ok.
River is almost never a check against any villain. You will loose a lot of value if you don't bet it!
Also, against this type of player, it seems like you should call a bit lighter, hence your thoughts about this hand.
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Old 04-30-2007, 11:05 PM
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Haven't read all the replies, just runned through it.

Cwar's is right about the good general rule in CB'ing 120 instead.
I usually bet turn also, but this is ok.
River is almost never a check against any villain. You will loose a lot of value if you don't bet it!
Also, against this type of player, it seems like you should call a bit lighter, hence your thoughts about this hand.

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Can I ask why you normally bet the turn? A river bluff is fairly likely with this type of villain.
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