SSNL POKER [cheese] thread JULY PT 2

[Casper05]

[ QUOTE ]
also i shouldn't educate you but your W%WSF is terrible and no winning player will ever be that low

ever ever ever

[/ QUOTE ]I tried to tell him this but he ignored it. GO FIGURE!

[bilbo-san]

SN:

I haven't seen you post a lot of hands, but I see a lot of other people posting hands against you, and I have to advise: Stop 4-betting so much. Seriously not doing your variance any good, and it's pretty exploitable because you always call 5-bet shoves which means:

a) People 5-bet AJ+/88+ for value against you
b) Some players know you 4-bet very light, but they don't understand the fact that you aren't folding to 5-bets. Those people shove-bluff against you. So someone 5-bet bluffs [censored] like A6, etc (because they KNOW you are 4-betting light), and then you call, and their bluff ends up being a value raise. Not good.

Seriously, if you open T9o and get 3-bet, the baby jesus won't cry if you let it go. Or you can call a lot and try to outplay people post-flop, if you are decent in 3-bet pots. But at nl200, I don't think all the 4-bet bluffing is doing you any good.

Then again, I could be wrong, maybe you don't do it that much, and I only see a few examples.

[dirtylobster]

I'm drunk. Can't play poker. My wireless keeps dropping the connection. People are asleep in the same room as the router. I don't have a long enough cable. Sucks.

Oh about that KK hand? Your weak bet on the turn is only meant to induce a bluff, right? Now call.

[MyironThumb]

bilbo-san, I really enjoy reading your posts and you cleary have an awesome uderstanding of the game. do you do coaching at all? can i pm you?

[FoldEqu1ty]

GOD HANDS LIKE THIS TILT ME SOOOOOOOOO HARD!!!!! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]



Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $81.76
BB: $193.94
UTG: $271.49
CO: $106.96
Hero (BTN): $91.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $4.00

Flop: ($11.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $8.00</font>, UTG calls $8.00

Turn: ($27.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $15.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00

River: ($57.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $25.00</font>, Hero calls $25.00

Pot Size: $107.50 ($2 Rake)

UTG had 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a straight Two to Six) and WON (+$52.50)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$53.00)

[RUDIKULOUS]

I thought today was going to be good for a while..

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">SB ($101.75)</font>
BB ($232.90)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($423.40)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($288.45)</font>
CO ($17)
Button ($202.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $6</font>, Hero calls $6, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $5, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($24) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $95.75</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $417.4</font>, Hero calls $242.45 (All-In).

Turn: ($311.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($311.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $819.60
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: $311.25, between SB, UTG and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="#FFFFFF">Pot won by UTG ($311.25).</font>
<font color="#009B00">Pot 2: $508.35, between SB and UTG.</font> &gt; <font color="#FFFFFF">Pot won by UTG ($508.35).</font>

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has Ks Qd (straight, king high).
UTG has Tc Ts (full house, tens full of jacks).
Hero has 9s 8s (straight, jack high).
Outcome: UTG wins $819.60. </font>


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO ($229.80)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($209.10)</font>
SB ($293.20)
BB ($246)
UTG ($199)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($213.70)</font>

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($19) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, Button calls $15.

Turn: ($49) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $110</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $190.7</font>, Button calls $76.10 (All-In).

River: ($421.20) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $421.21
<font color="#009B00">Main Pot: $421.20, between Button and Hero.</font> &gt; <font color="#FFFFFF">Pot won by Button ($421.20).</font>
<font color="#009B00">Pot 2: $4.59, returned to Hero.</font>

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Td Tc (full house, tens full of jacks).
Button has Jc Jh (four of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: Button wins $421.20. Hero wins $4.59. </font>

[MyTurn2Raise]

FGators sucks

BrandysBich is good

[willw9]

Just played 2/4, dropped a g-bomb. I thought I played very very well actually, just ran into the top of everyones range.

[mason55]

god i should not have started showing people my monthly graph before i finished today.

[willw9]

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $441.50
BB: $166.00
UTG: $409.70
MP: $571.10
CO: $371.50
BTN: $771.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $12.00</font>, BB calls $8.00

Flop: ($24) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $17.50</font>, BB calls $17.50

Turn: ($59) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $32.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $412.00</font>, BB calls all-in for $104.50
Uncalled bet of $275.50 returned to Hero

River: ($332) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $332.00 ($3 Rake)

BB had T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$163.00)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Jacks) and LOST (-$166.00)


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $549.80
Hero (BB): $400.00
UTG: $965.95
CO: $488.00
BTN: $586.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $8.00</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $4.00

Flop: ($18) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, BTN calls $14.00

Turn: ($46) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $20.00</font>, Hero calls $20.00

River: ($86) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $40.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $120.00</font>, BTN calls $80.00

Pot Size: $326.00 ($3 Rake)

BTN had T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a flush, Jack high) and WON (+$161.00)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ([Ad Jh] two pair, Aces and Jacks) and LOST (-$162.00)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $404.00
BB: $1,548.50
UTG: $419.80
CO: $208.70
BTN: $388.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $14.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $48.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $34.00

Flop: ($100) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $78.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $371.80</font>, Hero calls all-in for $278.00
Uncalled bet of $15.80 returned to UTG

Turn: ($812) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($812) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $812.00 ($3 Rake)

UTG had 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Sixes and Fives) and WON (+$405.00)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-$404.00)