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Old 11-23-2007, 07:46 PM
Ramana Ramana is offline
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Default NL100 - pair+FD OOP, easy shove?

Villain is 30/12/3 He already folded to my cbet twice in this session.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
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Stacks:
Hero (<font color="#0000cc">$103.83</font>)
CO (<font color="#0000cc">$68.86</font>)
BTN (<font color="#0000cc">$124.10</font>)
SB (<font color="#0000cc">$26.50</font>)
BB (<font color="#0000cc">$34.68</font>)

Pre-flop: ($1.5, 5 players) Hero is UTG K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#777777">3 folds</font>

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $16</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero goes all-in $91.83</font>
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:49 PM
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Default Re: NL100 - pair+FD OOP, easy shove?

if he folds you were ahead anyway
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Old 11-23-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: NL100 - pair+FD OOP, easy shove?

given stacks, sure.
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Old 11-23-2007, 08:00 PM
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Default Re: NL100 - pair+FD OOP, easy shove?

I play this the same
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: NL100 - pair+FD OOP, easy shove?

and im not saying shoving is bad, because its obv standard and +EV. but think about WHY we usually shove hands like this, and think about villains range. now think about what part of villains range is actually folding when you shove here in this particular spot. your hand, even without the draw does have decent showdown value
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Old 11-24-2007, 05:14 PM
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Default Re: NL100 - pair+FD OOP, easy shove?

We shove here because we never fold a blank turn but he might slow down when a spade/Jack/King hits. Also shoving gets more value out of draws and weaker made hands.
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Old 11-24-2007, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: NL100 - pair+FD OOP, easy shove?

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Also shoving gets more value out of draws and weaker made hands.

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how so? he snap folds weaker made hands, along with all non-nut draws. if we could see villains actual cards, what hands should we be shoving against?
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