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Old 10-22-2007, 11:50 PM
Bonafone Bonafone is offline
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Default QQ hand in FT $1k

Hey,

Just curious about a couple things from this hand. What do you think about flatting this utg shove? If you don't flat are you shoving? raising less than all in?

Then what about the flop fold? bad, good? He fired flop very very fast if that changes anything.

If you're not folding, what are you doing?
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t120 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG (t1185)
UTG+1 (t4243)
MP1 (t4650)
Hero (t4610)
MP3 (t2999)
CO (t3865)
Button (t4282)
SB (t4815)
BB (t5215)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1185 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t1185, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls t1125, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t3675) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 1 all-in)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1560</font>, Hero folds.
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:13 AM
Bond18 Bond18 is offline
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Default Re: QQ hand in FT $1k

Flop fold looks fine.

In the tilt 1k i don't think anyone is fooled when you flat call a raise of this size for 25% of your stack. I think reshoving pre to iso actually looks weaker and gets you more calls.
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Old 10-23-2007, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: QQ hand in FT $1k

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Flop fold looks fine.

In the tilt 1k i don't think anyone is fooled when you flat call a raise of this size for 25% of your stack. I think reshoving pre to iso actually looks weaker and gets you more calls.

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Old 10-23-2007, 01:31 AM
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Default Re: QQ hand in FT $1k

I'd rather reshove preflop. Was the intent of the call to get somebody to reshove light? Flop is tough and I'd probably fold, but I so often see this weak bet and it's not a K it's a some pair trying to rep the K hoping the shortstack pusher has A hi. So let me change my response to I think shoving over the top is the best play.
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:42 AM
Rock3656 Rock3656 is offline
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Default Re: QQ hand in FT $1k

I like a reshove pre for a few reasons: if you flat call pre, someone may overshove with AK, when they might be folding if you reshove. Flat calling preflop may allow someone to get away with JJ, when they may call a shove from you. You're going to call a reshove anywayz I assume, so your going broke to KK or AA eitherway.
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Old 10-24-2007, 05:54 AM
MrTimCaum MrTimCaum is offline
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Default Re: QQ hand in FT $1k

I agree with everyone else here, I like a reshove because it definitely looks weaker than flat calling.
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Old 10-24-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: QQ hand in FT $1k

I play it the same
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: QQ hand in FT $1k

get it all in pre
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Old 10-26-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: QQ hand in FT $1k

I shove it PF here, mainly because of what pokeriseasy says, when that overcard comes out and TT weak bets what do you do? Fold... I'd rather get it in pre and hope she holds. As played i fold the flop...
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Old 10-28-2007, 04:23 AM
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Default Re: QQ hand in FT $1k

I'm a trap call box pf but even I shove here
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