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Old 11-28-2007, 08:10 AM
taipan168 taipan168 is offline
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Default ($27) KQ flops OESD and two overs

Opp's stats 24/11/2.1 over 260 hands. What to do against the flop check/minraise?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO (t1455)
Hero (t3320)
SB (t1320)
BB (t880)
UTG (t2040)
UTG+1 (t1360)
MP1 (t1405)
MP2 (t1720)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, SB calls t75, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t210) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t140</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t300</font>, Hero ????
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:16 AM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops OESD and two overs

If I bet the flop, I get it in here.
Checking behind can't be that bad tho, hits lots of his range and you got so many outs.
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Old 11-28-2007, 08:25 AM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops OESD and two overs

I think we need to shove here.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:00 AM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops OESD and two overs

Decent hand sample and vs a small aggro factor villain: Looks like a lot of strength. I like calling since we're deep.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:04 AM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops OESD and two overs

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Decent hand sample and vs a small aggro factor villain: Looks like a lot of strength. I like calling since we're deep.

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Our deepness doesn't really matter since SB is not deep.
I really like a checkbehind on the flop,
but as played we get the odds to get it in against some random J.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:06 AM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops OESD and two overs

Sure it does, we're calling off a smaller % of our stack.
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Old 11-28-2007, 10:06 AM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops OESD and two overs

I check the flop.
As played it really depends on what villainīs c/r here. Is there a possibility you are ahead (98s,Q9s)? Since I do not think you get him to fold it is close $EV-wise. I call and see a turn.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops OESD and two overs

if we dont have FE on the flop, as most of you seem to say (hint: this is incorrect, I see no way to make that judgment based on this small raise, people play terribly oop vs the pfr in HU pots), what makes any of you think that hes not firing the turn? The argument for getting a free turn is just as weak, if not weaker than the argument for having absolutely 0 FE on the flop.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:52 PM
TruFloridaGator TruFloridaGator is offline
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Default Re: ($27) KQ flops OESD and two overs

The c/r vs a 2.1 aggro looks pretty strong to me in a SNG. It's not a min-raise so he didn't instaclick it. Not arguing the right play, just I think our FE is pretty close to 0 vs our read.
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Old 11-28-2007, 12:53 PM
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villain is pretty low on chips, i really dont think it matters too much if you shove or call here. if he has just shown any tendency to bluff i d definitely shove though.
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