PS 25NL 44 and AQ hands- River Play

retleftolc · #1 09-26-2007, 12:37 AM

Any comments welcome.

Vil is 27/5/1.25 over just 22. Comments welcome.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($33.75)
Hero ($24.65)
SB ($25)
BB ($40.35)
UTG ($28.60)
MP ($56.70)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.50, CO folds.

Flop: ($4.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3.

Turn: ($10.10) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $6, Hero calls $6.

River: ($22.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $17.85 (All-In), Hero?

Vil is 42/28/2.5 over 28 hands.

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CO ($13.15)
Button ($21.20)
SB ($12.70)
Hero ($24.65)
UTG ($26.75)
MP ($28.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $1, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75.

Flop: ($2.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1, Hero calls $1.

Turn: ($4.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.5, Hero raises to $5.75, MP calls $3.25.

River: ($15.60) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $4.25, MP raises to $20.75, Hero?

Turn was intended to be a raise to 7.75. As played can I fold?

Ret

mookboi · #2 09-26-2007, 12:47 AM

I think both stat reads are meaningless, since sample size is too small.

Assuming unknown, in hand 1, I might fold the turn TBH, until I found out more about villain. That turn donk looks strong and kinda tells me "I just hit my 2pair." I mean, the other option is that he was slowplaying something on the flop, which isn't good for us either, since we got AJ. I dunno, his line just looks strong to me. I guess it's feasable that he does this with air, but that's one strange bluffing pattern. As played, I also fold river.

In hand #2, I CR the flop. If we were in position, maybe I'd wait to raise until the turn, but OOP, I like CRing here, due to the fact that a lot of turn cards could shut him down, and we don't know if he's gonna bet or not. Over 28 hands he seems pretty aggro, but even still, him just checking behind turn is very possible, and it would really suck for us, especially given the turn card. So I CR flop. As played, why did you bet so little on river? I guess he could have a 9, but a lot of times this is JT that just got there, or something like that. Or he could have hit straight on turn and slowplayed it 'til river or something, but I stack off here.

retleftolc · #3 09-26-2007, 11:31 AM

In the hands the vil in hand 2 had played to the river, he had been lots more agro on the turn and river. I felt I was well ahead of his range. He had pushed several 2 or 3 rivers. I figured a small bet would look weak and get the result I wanted.

I got the results. It just felt uncomfortable how quickly he put the money in.

Ret

Logun · #4 09-26-2007, 11:40 AM

hand 1

given he has only raised 5% of his hands, I can't see him in here with an Ace that you beat. - Fold turn.

Hand 2
snap call - you're either the victim of set over set or he turned you and played it well.

YesMehFriend · #5 09-26-2007, 12:29 PM

I fold turn in hand 1, I can't see many hands you beat: I doubt he'll do this as a (semi-)bluff or with a weaker A. It's 2p, straight or slowplay quite often imo.

2nd hand: I c/r the flop for sure. You have to hope he has a hand here.
Bet this turn: his turn bet is not sure and the board is fairly drawy now.
The river is supposed to be a blocking bet I guess, ya? But I doubt this can work on this board against someone who seems to be aggro and loose. Bet it like a man and lose like a man [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] (could be the straight but could also be a 2p-like hand.

retleftolc · #6 09-26-2007, 01:37 PM

Like I said, he had pushed a few rivers and people laid down. I thought a weak lead would induce a push. He just insta pushed, which he hadn't done before. Kinda felt strong, but as I played it I didnt't think I could go away.

He turned the straight- with the 56c!

1st hand I folded the river- He showed KTo!!!!

Oh well,

Ret