11$ lvl1 Party Speed: Big PF raise from 35/12 - Push with JJ?

[donkraft]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t40 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

CO (t1840)
Button (t1900)
SB (t2960)
BB (t2160)
<font color="#C00000">UTG (t1840)</font> 35/12/2 over 243 hands (10-6 handed)
UTG+1 (t2000)
MP1 (t1880)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1960)</font>
MP3 (t3460)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t440</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>

Hero?

When I see a move like this from a 35/12 player, I'm thinking AJ-AK and 77-QQ.

Thoughts, action?

[vers]

his raise is ridiculous, you have to shove it in. You're ahead sooo often here.

[donkraft]

Thoughts on his range?

[Takeover_inc]

I would have to shove this as well. Your hand is too good.

[donkraft]

Thanks for the comments.

I shoved and he showed 88.

[Gimmidaloot]

If find people opening crazy amounts at these levels have low-mid PPs a large amount of the time. Seems like they're scared to play them so the open for these crazy amounts... Im probably shoving 99+ here almost all of the time, unless i have some crazy read on the guy.

[ger664]

Some thoughts should be given to the possibility that this may go 3-handed.

What reads/stats did you have players to act behind, particuarly on how MP2 and SB have accumalated their respective stacks ?

[donkraft]

ger664&gt;&gt; Hmm.. Why do you ask? Could you give en example of stats on MP2 and SB, that would cause you to act differently? If they're complete and utter all-in maniacs calling my push with any ace or any pair - do we act differently here?

I'm sure I could find the stats, but if the above questions are actually more interesting than the excact stats in my opinion. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Kevin8423]

Whenever someone raising to some donkey amount (way above standard raise) I do the opposite of tightening up. I would shove this, TT and maybe even 99. (JJ and TT is fairly standard though IMO)

[ger664]

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ger664&gt;&gt; Hmm.. Why do you ask? Could you give en example of stats on MP2 and SB, that would cause you to act differently? If they're complete and utter all-in maniacs calling my push with any ace or any pair - do we act differently here?

I'm sure I could find the stats, but if the above questions are actually more interesting than the excact stats in my opinion. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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I do not have sngwiz but it would be beneficial for you to see how your equity changes here if one of the big stacks is over-calling loose behind and against all villians having a somewhat resonable tight range against given action. Then from there try to evaluate what hands are good to shove with against each scenario.