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Old 11-14-2007, 08:57 PM
BadBenOni BadBenOni is offline
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Default Re: PLO100 - Playing a wrap deep

I dont think your play is standard at all.

Call with draws, raise with made hands.
the raise on the turn just kills your positional advantage,
just take a free card and be happy.

And I think the turn is an easy fold,
though you might have pot odds you are behind 100% with poor implied odds.
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:40 PM
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Default Re: PLO100 - Playing a wrap deep

I raise PF,
I like the flop raise IF youre checking the turn. The call on the turn is marginal imo. A flush draw with something else is probably a decent part of his range. And yeah, I call that river as well. Many would blockbet here with a set or whatever.
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Old 11-14-2007, 10:50 PM
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Default Re: PLO100 - Playing a wrap deep

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I dont think your play is standard at all.

Call with draws, raise with made hands.
the raise on the turn just kills your positional advantage,
just take a free card and be happy.

And I think the turn is an easy fold,
though you might have pot odds you are behind 100% with poor implied odds.

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While I agree with just calling in this particular spot due to the passivity of our opponent, this is terrible advice in general. If this is how you play all the time, you're going to be very easy to read and you'll get hammered by good players.
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:55 AM
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Default Re: PLO100 - Playing a wrap deep

I like the just call on the flop. As others have said, if you raise the flop, it's mostly for a free river, so check it behind.
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:13 AM
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I like the just call on the flop. As others have said, if you raise the flop, it's mostly for a free river, so check it behind.

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its a fair point. i think i was probably too eager to go after the only other 200bb stack on the table in retrospect, as i felt if i hammered them enough i could force an error.

whoever said c/c, just checking and calling draws all the time is very exploitable, as has been pointed out
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:31 AM
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Default Re: PLO100 - Playing a wrap deep

his lead and call on the flop seems to be two pair or bottm/medium set with maybe the FD. With top set he would have repot no?

Here I check this turn for pot control, I don't think villain is bluffing a lot given his stats... and his c/r on a safe turn is scaring. Even a fold is not bad IMO.

Now call and see the river, but a fold wouldn't be bad IMO.

From BB he can have any 4, J9xx or 44xx woudn't surprise me.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:40 AM
BadBenOni BadBenOni is offline
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Default Re: PLO100 - Playing a wrap deep

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whoever said c/c, just checking and calling draws all the time is very exploitable, as has been pointed out

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Obviously I dont always cc draws,
but he has already called a check raise once,
this seems like an ideal spot to take a free card.

I just think on this hand its standard to take a free card,
mainly because you have position and the stacks are so shallow that if you bet he can kill your implied odds and position with a raise.
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Old 11-15-2007, 09:49 AM
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the stacks are so shallow that if you bet he can kill your implied odds and position with a raise.

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ok i appreciate your point, but ~200bb isnt shallow
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