PLO100 - picking up a good draw, deep, in an out of control pot

[Elrazor]

UTG is a fairly good player i have played against lots and have several thousand hands on - he generally runs 42/18/4, but is playing more agro this session (52/26) especially against me, in the last few hands we have played a couple of big pots, each winning one - i dont mind getting involved in hands with him tho even OOP as i generally play better post flop than him

BB i have 86 hands on - hes 55/3/2.5, going to SD 36% and winning 25%, a classic loose passive showdown muppet, and hes marked with AAxx. Im running 24/6/5 this table, and i know pre flop is marginal for some players but im 99% sure having played with UTG so much that hes not repotting, button im not worried about either as he never 3 bets, ever

Fold, call or shove?

Cryptologic
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $338.15
UTG+1: $212.30
CO: $317.80
Button: $98.90
SB: $203.07
BB: $97.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $4.5</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $19.5</font>, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, Button calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($78.5, 4 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in $78</font>, Hero??

[Parlay Slow]

I think shoving is a little better cuz you can clean up some heart and underset outs.

[CrushinFelt]

Preflop is not marginal. It's terrible. This is like the best flop for you other than a set and you still had to make a thread about it because your hand is that awful.

[Silent A]

I agree with the CF. A particular problem is that if BB really has AAxx he will pot a lot of flops leaving you in terrible position with everyone else left to act.

Since your hand is only marginally co-ordinated you can hit flops hard often enough to justify continuing.

Edit: finally, your target isn't deep enough relative to the BB to justify trying to play over the BB.

[Toesack]

PF that hand is terrible, I'd fold it for 4.5bb much less to 20bb. AF you have the second best board you could ask for (second to TXX) so if you're ballsy enough to play it PF you better be ballsy enough to shove it AF.

[sc000t]

Have to agree with the others. I might even open fold this hand, but I def find a fold once it gets 3bet around.

As played I shove this flop.

[donkeykong2]

i see no reason to play this hand in first place and definitely fold it pf. it may still be a fold on this flop i think.

[holdemsucks]

should have folded pre-flop, your position is crap.

[Rob121]

dude preflop is beyond horrible. what are you thinking?.. i fold the flop still if i somehow missclicked cold called a raise and a reraise here.

"shoving is a little better cuz you can clean up some heart and underset outs"

there is 2 players still left to act if you shove, i highly doubt better draws fold. the big blind isn't shoving just aaxx here unless hes a complete moron. i would expect to see top set or aa with the nut flush draw a lot of the time from him alone.

[alavet]

oh guys so many nice posts about game especially preflop play. i like it.
pff

as played, i fold. too ealy position to play with and any1 may call with flush draw or combo-draw, cause you giving them some dead money and they would may get odds to, even if you all in.