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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
bet/fold (NITS) 0 0%
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:10 AM
GtrHtr GtrHtr is offline
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villains stats? he has ~$28 left on the river, if you bet more on the turn it would be more like 25. Either way, I'd make some donkish bet on the river either over like you did or smaller like 18, more often larger.

If he's normal which may or may not be the case he has a crappy flush or a poorly played Q.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:11 AM
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How do I find out his stats before this hand happen so it doesn't scew his stats?

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I've been copying hands I want to review from the instant hand history window and pasting into notepad. At this time, I also note villains stats.

I think it helps because I don't have many hands with most villains in my PT and the difference between what the stats looked like at 40 hands vs. 200 hands can make a big difference in evaluating how you played a hand.

I was hoping one of the new database/HUD features some day would let you mark a hand for review in real time and also "freeze" the stats at the time the hand took place, but I don't think that's going to happen any time soon.
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

villians numbers are 54/8
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:16 PM
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($227.50)
MP ($103.05)
Button ($101.15)
SB ($140.50)
BB ($122.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, Button calls $4, SB calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($17) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $12</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $30</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?</font>

vill is 72/10 over 100 hands, standard bet/fold ?

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You beat way too many hands to fold, especially considering his 72% VPIP. He's playing every hand with a Q in it and not every hand with an 8 in it. Any love for calling the flop and checking the turn for the stack?
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:32 PM
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I like calling flop to induce on turn. Though with the flush draw and some gutshots out there, a smallish three bet to induce a huge mistake from him like a shove is attractive too.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:35 PM
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for the AQ hand:

I would probably just shove now. Im not folding to this guy anywhere, and if he has a draw, hes not folding it to a push.

And no Q is folding, so just get it in.
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Old 11-08-2007, 02:36 PM
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I like calling flop to induce on turn. Though with the flush draw and some gutshots out there, a smallish three bet to induce a huge mistake from him like a shove is attractive too.

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If we had position, i wouldnt mind a call, but i will shoot myself if he checks behind a blank turn.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:00 PM
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I like calling flop to induce on turn. Though with the flush draw and some gutshots out there, a smallish three bet to induce a huge mistake from him like a shove is attractive too.

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I'm not sure I've ever successfully induced a bluff/semi-bluff 3-bet or greater at nl100. I'm also pretty sure I've never induced a push from a strong hand that wouldn't have called a shove anyway, but that's harder to know.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:15 PM
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BB is is 32/7/1.9 through 150 hands and I've already value-stacked myself fgators-style once against him. UTG+1 is 18/10/0.8 over 40 hands and I seem to remember some really bad-fishy postflop play from him, though I can't remember exactly what.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $122.25
UTG+1: $105.65
CO: $100
Button: $105
SB: $99
BB: $261.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 calls, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($12.5, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $10</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $33</font>, Hero ???

Is this one of those places I should just be shoving it and loving it? Something here makes me want to pull for value rather than push for isolation because my outs are as good against both of them as they are against one.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:33 PM
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Villain is 17/9, a reg at my stakes. He like NEVER folds to MY 3bets. So far I've 3bet him quite often this session so he might think we're "at war". So far he has folded to my cbets in 3bet pots.

Effective stacks 100xBBs, NL100 6max.
5 handed.

2 folds
Villain bets $4
Hero (button) raises to $14 with QQ
Villain calls.


FLOP: Rainbow ATJ
Villain bets $21 (donkbet % 17, agg fac 2.8)
Hero?
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