Too thin?

ahnuld · #1 10-21-2007, 11:10 AM

5/10 game just got shorthanded. Villan is a reg and hes decent, probably 2+2 but he plays a bit unorthodox at times. Stacks are about 2k deep.

I get A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on button and make it 35. sb folds, villan in BB makes it 125. I call. Flop comes A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

He checks, I check. Turn is the T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. He checks, I bet 165, he calls.

River is the 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. He checks...is there any value here?

FionnMac · #2 10-21-2007, 11:15 AM

i think so

jkkkk · #3 10-21-2007, 11:16 AM

your image?

sounds painfully obvious but it really depends upon how often he thinks you will double barrel here, w/ no good metagame going on I'd just check.

KRANTZ · #4 10-21-2007, 11:25 AM

yes and you could have gotten all 3 streets you wuss

KRANTZ · #5 10-21-2007, 11:26 AM

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your image?

sounds painfully obvious but it really depends upon how often he thinks you will double barrel here, w/ no good metagame going on I'd just check.

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that is a factor but it depends way more on how he would play his entire range of hands that beat you street by street

Snygaard · #6 10-21-2007, 11:44 AM

Yeah I would bet this river most of the time. But doesnt a flop bet look more bluffy? Or were you afraid he was going for a c/r with KsKx or QsQx?

Ship Ship McGipp · #7 10-21-2007, 11:46 AM

i'd bet the flop and turn but check the rriver

ahnuld · #8 10-21-2007, 11:52 AM

getting CRed on the flop makes me puke and confused. I ended up betting 450 but im not sure how I feel about it. I would like to occasionally bluff these rivers with something like KsQx that I get tricky with though.

jkkkk · #9 10-21-2007, 12:10 PM

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your image?

sounds painfully obvious but it really depends upon how often he thinks you will double barrel here, w/ no good metagame going on I'd just check.

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that is a factor but it depends way more on how he would play his entire range of hands that beat you street by street

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If I had to guess he only ever has AK/AQ here when we're beat, slim chance he's slowplayed a flopped/turned set in this fashion. Isn't the real question how often he'll call w/ JJ-KK here as this is a value bet?

$upermad4it · #10 10-21-2007, 12:26 PM

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i'd bet the flop and turn but check the rriver

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and call river bet